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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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additional july 8th 1947.

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying bist has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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68 days into the new year

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a total undisclosed location but it is

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changer and on next networks i am your

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what is kraken

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how you doing

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richard dolan returns

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to talk about our world on edge tomorrow

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night is another fader night it's

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tomorrow night fader night open lines

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all night long

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and uh tonight it's richard dolan

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and uh i'm i'm i'm gonna warm up with

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i'm very excited to uh have our good

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friend back on the show tonight

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and uh so much is going on

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and and here's the deal with uh you know

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he's he's a he's a historian

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he knows his stuff

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um he's been doing this his entire life

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you know but uh

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for me today too as well but it was just

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and it was a warm-up for tonight and i'm

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very excited about having richard on the

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show this week

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and uh you know i've called it been the

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world on edge week here on uh

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on fade to black and it's been a great

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week and uh tonight we're going to close

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it out we'll close it out tomorrow

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closing it out tonight with richard so

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get ready for that he'll be with us at

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the bottom of the hour all right follow

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all right hashtag f2b is the sandbox

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hashtag f2b and i'm looking at the

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sandbox right here there's a richard

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dolan gif can i play this can i play

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what's up with this

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won't play i'll ch i'll check that out

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and uh there you go all right so hello

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to everybody listening and watching all

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around the world i mentioned um good

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oh why is it a great series

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and renee sent me this article good

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girls didn't get picked up for season

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that's it so we don't know how the story

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ends and this kind of bums me out

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on all of their

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scripted drama comedy drama last last

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place so they didn't get picked up

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and it's you know it's billed as a

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netflix series but it's not really it's

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an nbc series and i'm just wondering why

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netflix just didn't pick it up to do a

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season five or a half a season five

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to wrap the series up

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that but anyway i'm at the end of season

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so i've got two more seasons in front of

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me but uh such a good show really

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enjoying it and then renee sent me this

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press release today

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i like renee and she she titles the

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email

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renee not so good news for jimmy oh my

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god man

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what's this about

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yeah she was right about that let's get

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to the breaking news a legendary

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volcanic rock in japan associated with

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an ancient evil vixen demon

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has split in two

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while geologists are sure that the

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occurrence is natural so they say others

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spirit has been released to cause havoc

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ancient dark force associated with an

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evil nine-tailed fox has been released

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through the splitting of the sasho seki

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the legends say that the famous killing

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stone is so powerful that it kills

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anyone who comes into contact with it

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the geological terror has been found

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took the form of an attractive woman

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called tamamo no may

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who was part of a secret plot to murder

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who ruled japan from 1107 to 1123

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a.d man that's a

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that's not that long of a rain until the

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recent splitting of the volcanic rock it

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was believed that the fox deminus was

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trapped inside the killing stone

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it has now split into

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well

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a man

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was arrested here in southern california

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at the san ysidro port of entry last

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week

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after border officers found

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wait for it

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59 live snakes and lizards

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in his clothing

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after his arrest

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jose manuel perez 30 years old

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said the reptiles

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were his pet lizards

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he's used some air quotes there

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investigators say that they are the

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latest commodities in a long-running

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wildlife trafficking ring

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based in oxnard california the live

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specimens

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contained in bags

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three dwarf boas

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a uribe false eye false cat eyed snake

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whatever that is a pacific coast parrot

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scientists

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have found and filmed one of the

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greatest ever undiscovered shipwrecks

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107 years after it sank have you seen

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the photographs of this it's crazy

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it's

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the endurance

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that's right the lost vessel of

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antarctic explorer sir ernest shackleton

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it was found at the week uh uh over the

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weekend at the bottom of the wedell sea

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the ship was crushed by sea ice and sank

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forcing shackleton and his men to make

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an astonishing escape on foot

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video of the remains show endurance to

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be in remarkable condition you should

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see it you can read

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endurance on the back of the ship video

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is incredible you need to check it out

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now even though it has been sitting in

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10 000 feet of water

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for over a century by the way

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it looks just like it did on november in

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in on

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that november day when it when it went

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down

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i was distracted by richard's text and

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uh it's pretty funny

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it's timbers

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although disrupted are still very much

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together and the name endurance is

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clearly visible on the stern it's

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absolutely incredible somebody pop that

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up i want to retweet it who is going to

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post the pictures of the endurance

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let's get to

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let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday to today

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one of my favorite actors today i think

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he's great oscar isaac today is 43. ex

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machina right star wars

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isaac

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and o.g fate or not kerr smith is 50

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years old man we haven't had kerr on the

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show in a long time

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miss hanging out with kerr

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i almost called him today and i thought

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man it's his birthday and you know he's

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going to get all those phone calls so

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i'm going to call him tomorrow but

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you remember kerr from dawson's creek

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charmed

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he's the principal at the high school in

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riverdale kerr smith today 50 years old

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guitar god robin trower today is 77.

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our dead guy's birthday today is

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ornette coleman

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1930 to 2015 died at the aj 85.

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ornette was a jazz saxophonist he's a

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violinist a trumpeter and a composer

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known as a principal founder

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of free jazz

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a term that came from his album free

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jazz a collective improvisation

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his pioneering performance is often

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abandon the chordal and harmony-based

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structure found in bebop instead

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emphasizing a jarring and avant-garde

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approach to improvisation

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his 1960 album free jazz

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at nearly 40 minutes

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was the longest recorded continuous jazz

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performance to date

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maybe his greatest work and at the same

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time his most controversial it's an

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amazing album his album sound grammar

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received the 2007 pulitzer prize for

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music and he is one of the most

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important and controversial innovators

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in music history ornette died of a heart

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attack at the age of 85 in new york city

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on june 11

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2015.

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happy birthday ornette

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rapper notorious b.i.g

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is killed at a stoplight in los angeles

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outside of the petersen automotive

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museum

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unsolved

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fader fact

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okay

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this is one of those fader facts this is

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one there's one every day that just is

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mind-blowing and you gotta go vet it you

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gotta go and check it out this

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is vetted

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and is a fact

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two teams

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two

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to design

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the iphone

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okay

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two teams

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one was

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dial based hardware

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the other

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touch screen

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it wasn't until the iphone reveal event

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that on stage

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steve jobs showed the world who won

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by deleting the contact of the losing

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designer tony fidel

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and that

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ruthless man ruthless steve jobs

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ruthless and that

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is your fader fact tonight we welcome

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very special guest richard according to

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this text it's richard bleep and dolan

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he wanted to correct me he returns

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tonight uh to talk about our world on

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edge lots to talk about tomorrow night's

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another fader night with open lines all

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night long

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and uh with that

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with that i need to hit

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this

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river moon coffee man texts are coming

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in

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yeah good ones too

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river moon wellness river moon coffee

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fade to black blend

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yeah

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all right

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richard's joining us on the show tonight

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and uh we've got a lot to talk about

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and it got me thinking um and i uh

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i've been mentioning this over the last

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uh couple of months and

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there are things going on and and i've

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how much

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modern ufo sightings

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how many

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now let's take a serious moment to think

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did you take a moment

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the first thing to consider

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is the most simple and obvious and that

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is this

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and

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you've never seen anything like it

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before

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would you understand

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think about what i'm saying

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listen back in the

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1780s 250 years ago back in the 1780s

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if you had never

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heard

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of a balloon

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which back then you probably hadn't

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and suddenly you see one floating in the

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sky

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what goes through your mind at that

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now let's consider this because on

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november 21st 1783

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the first free flight carrying a human

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occurred in paris france in a hot air

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balloon made of paper and silk

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now i am sure

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that many who witnessed that event

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had no idea what they were saying

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think about it you know what is that

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it's called a balloon it's a

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what now

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think about it

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right now

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obviously no internet no electricity

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you know you've got newspapers you've

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got things

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how much do people really know

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i mean on the on the the new

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fresh stuff that's going on

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think about that

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okay

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now let's push this more into a modern

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the belgian ufo wave was a series of

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sightings of triangular ufos in belgium

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which lasted from

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november 29 1989 until april of 1990

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the wave peaked with the events on the

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night of march 30th to 31st

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when one unknown object was tracked on

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radar and two belgian air force f-16s

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were sent to investigate

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now no reports were received from the

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public on that date

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but over the next two weeks reports from

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140 people came in all describing a

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now the sightings weren't just confined

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to belgium there were reports of black

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triangles in the uk elsewhere in europe

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and of course in the united states

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now going back to my original point if

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you see something in the sky that you've

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never seen before

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what would you think

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right

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black triangles in the skull what are

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you going to think

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now a black triangle

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you know anything flying like that any a

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a black triangle zipping around

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you know just just doing stuff in this

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guy that doesn't fit into anything that

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should be up there a plane a rocket a

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helicopter or a hot air balloon

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now of course i'm stating the obvious

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here we all have our thoughts on what

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the black triangles may be and most of

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us don't jump on the e.t origin or at

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least not directly and i get that

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and let's not forget what happened

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in the rendel shim force 10 years before

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belgium

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right there in the uk

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descriptions of that craft uh

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feel bl triangle-ish to me

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seriously

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coincidence maybe

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probably not i don't know

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but

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i've been seeing things lately that if

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if they were seen anywhere else in the

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world by someone who had no idea what

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they were looking at they would well

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they would probably lose their minds

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you see out here in the mojave

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i'm not sure that anybody cares or pays

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attention

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why

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well

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because this stuff up in the skies

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every day

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and every night

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and people out here are used to seeing

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the craziest stuff imaginable flying

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around that's right that's what they do

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out here

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all the time

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and i would venture to guess that

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someone looking up and seeing something

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has probably actually directly

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worked on the craft in some capacity

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right

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one thing i've noticed and i've gotten

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quite used to out here is sonic booms

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it's pretty much every day

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it's every day yesterday two of them in

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the morning about five minutes apart

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loud not that far away either

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and the craft that caused the booms well

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i didn't see them

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but i didn't look for them either

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it's just another day out here like for

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real for real

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sonic boom's going off i don't even

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yes i'm shooting videos i'm taking

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pictures

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but i'm just not posting them

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why

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the first is that

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if i just started posting stuff

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right and and

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most most people

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would have no idea what they're looking

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at

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and they'll jump into some conclusions

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just like i stated earlier

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think about that and second and most

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important

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is that i don't want any issues with

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like

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so think about that i'm yours jimmy

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church tonight right here we're going to

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talk about all of this

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and how this may disrupt

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actual ufo research

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think about everything that i just said

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richard dolan joins us tonight i am your

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host jimmy church this is fade to black

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tomorrow night thursday fader night

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open lines all night long on the game

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changer and on x networks race hobbs

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race hobbs woke me up this morning with

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a phone call

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seven o'clock in the morning

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just like dude

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that was it that was that was the start

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of my day raise hobbs

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the next network i'm yours jimmy church

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this is fade to black i'll be right back

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after this short break with richard

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bleepin dolan stay right there

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so

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[Music]

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this is nicole church daughter of you

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know who and you're listening to fade to

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black on jimmychurchradio.com

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you're listening to jimmy church and

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you're listening to jimmy church fade to

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fate to black will now pause for alien

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and dolan is here how you doing hi jimmy

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thanks for having me

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and uh here's the deal richard uh

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we talked music today for 90 minutes

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right we did we did we did um and tell

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me you just

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you got the urge to go and listen to

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some classics what did you do

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well

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i um did not we had a nice conversation

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about miles davis yes we did courtesy of

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you you've been getting into miles i've

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been getting into miles getting back

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into miles davis yeah getting yeah

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that's a better way to put it

710
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yeah yeah he's amazing

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um i didn't listen to miles yet not

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today

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i did listen to

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oh wait you haven't asked me something

715
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okay what was the last thing you

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listened to music wise today richard

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the last piece of music that i heard

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today

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00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:56,640
was actually jimi hendrix all along the

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watchtower

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whoa which is

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not too shabby whoa it's got that great

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great actually my favorite of all

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hendrix solos

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i think that's my favorite one of his

726
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:11,040
yeah yeah yeah

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there's there's a lot of magic in that

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track

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yeah

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um but i was jealous because you got you

731
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got so much into miles davis lately and

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you were just

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telling me about all the miles albums

734
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you've been listening to from kind of

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blue right on through [\h__\h] brew and

736
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everything in between

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i was like

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mile i i was saying to you i think miles

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is like hemingway he's like the great

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like restraint

741
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:38,160
he's this absolute like doesn't play an

742
00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:41,040
extra note ever and every note he played

743
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:43,520
was beautiful he had such a great sound

744
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:44,880
and a great

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sense of musicality just unmatched i

746
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didn't tell you one thing since you

747
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:51,200
spoke to someone years ago who worked in

748
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a new york city pizzeria

749
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for which miles davis was a customer

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shut up

751
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yeah so she well she didn't meet him in

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00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:00,960
person but she talked him on the phone

753
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because he would call in his orders

754
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:05,200
and and he was like

755
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:08,720
i gotta get a pepperoni pizza

756
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:11,920
some anchovies and sunshine

757
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:13,440
that's how he sounded

758
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:15,119
he's like

759
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,960
that's how miles davis talked at the end

760
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:18,960
of his life did you

761
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:22,000
did you did you know how he got the

762
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:24,480
voice have you heard that story

763
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:26,960
no i don't think so okay so he had some

764
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:30,640
nodes on his uh vocal cords

765
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:33,359
and this was in the 1950s

766
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:37,440
okay so he goes in for an operation to

767
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:40,240
remove the nodes and they tell him the

768
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:42,480
hospital successful operation

769
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:46,000
everything's good they said seven days

770
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:47,760
no talking

771
00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:49,520
okay oh

772
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:52,720
that lasted for about three days

773
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:56,320
oh yeah wow and i don't know if it was

774
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:57,839
coltrane

775
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:00,960
um or if it was like dizzy gillespie you

776
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:03,119
know one of one of the guys that he was

777
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,960
playing with at the time

778
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:06,560
um in

779
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:08,480
this uh

780
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:10,240
it was a big band

781
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:11,280
um

782
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:13,359
lost

783
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:18,240
uh in rehearsals and started his

784
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,000
favorite word was mf

785
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:21,920
right that was it that was it that was

786
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:23,839
his favorite word yes

787
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:26,160
and and whoever was telling the story

788
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:27,280
said

789
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:31,050
he dropped like five mf's

790
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:33,599
[Laughter]

791
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:35,839
and his voice never came back i'm going

792
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,599
to blame it on coltrane because uh he

793
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:39,680
always did drive miles it's crazy i know

794
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:41,839
i know i know and that was it that was

795
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,000
it he is that that was it and uh and

796
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:48,480
they went on to say that he was so

797
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:51,200
embarrassed by his voice

798
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:53,760
that uh he wouldn't talk uh during

799
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:54,880
concerts

800
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:57,440
you know and eventually it came out i

801
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,240
feel bad now for saying that thing yeah

802
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:02,880
but it was a true story

803
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:06,000
you know what though uh listening to uh

804
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,079
herbie hancock or

805
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:10,400
or anybody that's around today and and

806
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:12,320
listen to them do their impressions of

807
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:13,440
miles

808
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:14,480
uh

809
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:16,960
it's done with endearing love you know

810
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,040
but yeah of course yeah yeah but but

811
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:20,960
that's what happened man that's he

812
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:22,960
couldn't the guy was a true like

813
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:24,880
everyone says genius so frequently but

814
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:27,520
he really was a musical genius

815
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:29,760
amazing guy amazing guy to listen to

816
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:32,079
well and now okay so i didn't tell you

817
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:35,280
this today uh we went back uh got an

818
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:36,880
artist and things

819
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:39,680
uh to do some redesign and some stuff

820
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:42,720
for the website and and and and banners

821
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:43,920
and things

822
00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:46,000
and and i was looking at

823
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:47,200
the cover

824
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,040
for kind of blue

825
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:51,520
last month maybe six weeks ago and i'm

826
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:53,680
like man i just love

827
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:56,800
the fonts and the colors the the soft

828
00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:59,280
blue and great right yeah you know yeah

829
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:00,640
and then i thought about like steve

830
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,960
mcqueen in the 60s

831
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:04,800
and that whole

832
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:07,440
you know font thing and like the

833
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:11,280
the ford gt40 with its blue

834
00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:12,640
paint job

835
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:14,640
that medium blue with the with the

836
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,839
orange stripes the gulf oil gt40 was

837
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:19,440
such a class and with just a

838
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,599
representative of that whole

839
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:23,359
cool period

840
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:26,800
and so i said i want our website and i i

841
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,480
want our imaging

842
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:30,560
to look like this and that's what we did

843
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:33,280
so we've been uh miles davis yeah yeah i

844
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:34,720
think that's i would say that is the

845
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:37,200
greatest jazz album of all time

846
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,640
such a great

847
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,400
it probably is

848
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:42,720
surprising i mean most most jazz

849
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,720
snobs would probably say that

850
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:46,800
i would say how do you

851
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:48,880
you know and you know what they

852
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:52,000
if you just go and you ask most jazz

853
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:53,359
purists

854
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:54,720
that you know that have a grip that know

855
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:56,160
what's going on

856
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:57,920
and you go what's the what's what's

857
00:41:01,670 --> 00:41:00,240
what's the greatest they're gonna go so

858
00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:01,680
what

859
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:07,119
world and uh yeah those who don't know

860
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:09,200
that started that was the first cut that

861
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:13,410
and

862
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:14,880
[Laughter]

863
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:17,040
what a great on youtube which still has

864
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:19,040
some good things uh there's a great clip

865
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:22,079
of miles on on tv like american tv like

866
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:26,000
1959 something like that 58 um with

867
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:27,920
miles davis john coltrane and his

868
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:30,079
quintet but without bill evans evans was

869
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:31,440
gone by then

870
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:34,000
but it you see miles and coltrane on

871
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:35,920
american tv

872
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,760
and like they are treated like the the

873
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:39,440
introduction is like the great miles

874
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:40,720
davis you know

875
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:42,319
and it's it's out there people should

876
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:44,720
check it out you see like miles does

877
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,960
this solo coltrane's in the background

878
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:48,640
and then and then coltrane has a solo

879
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:50,240
miles in the back having a cigarette

880
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:51,760
yeah

881
00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:54,880
on tv yes and the cool [\h__\h] that i've

882
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:57,920
watched that uh show so many times

883
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:00,880
so uh what richard's referring to it's

884
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:03,040
in black and white it's in film too

885
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,800
that's the other thing it's it's not

886
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:06,560
video tape which is great because you

887
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:07,839
get that whole

888
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,400
uh smokey black and white vibe right so

889
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:12,000
they're just beautiful to watch it it's

890
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:13,520
beautiful to watch right and the

891
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:15,440
recording is perfect anyway

892
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:17,359
so uh coltrane

893
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:18,400
uh

894
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:24,880
miles and he goes backstage

895
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:26,800
and he's standing behind the band

896
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:29,680
smoking a cigarette man yeah and

897
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:31,839
listening to listening to culture and

898
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:35,200
going off and it is just uh that i i've

899
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:37,839
watched that so many times man

900
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,720
that

901
00:42:42,790 --> 00:42:40,720
it's a different world do you miss a

902
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:42,800
different world do you miss

903
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:43,680
uh

904
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:46,240
not the period but do you miss like

905
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,440
bands

906
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:50,000
you know you know what i mean a ban yes

907
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,720
yes yes i do know what you mean yeah it

908
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:54,319
was it was a certain

909
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:57,280
moment in history people we we take so

910
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:59,280
much for granted

911
00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:01,920
you know when uh if you look at american

912
00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:03,119
history

913
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,839
in the 20th century so take it from the

914
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:07,359
end of the first world war so let's

915
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:08,800
start with the 20s because that's really

916
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,720
when it started where you'd get like the

917
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:12,880
jazz band like a young lewis armstrong

918
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:15,040
sure and playing king oliver and those

919
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:17,440
guys what you had was a situation in the

920
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:19,359
society where all of these people were

921
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:21,920
like i want to play music and

922
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,599
there's this an incredible outgrowth of

923
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:27,520
of musical genius

924
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:28,960
in the entire country and it was in

925
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:31,920
europe as well to a lesser extent

926
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:33,359
the action was really in the united

927
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:34,800
states for

928
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:36,400
at least certainly

929
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:39,599
you know 50 years of the 20th

930
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:41,760
from century from the 20s maybe to the

931
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:44,319
and then take it into the rock era where

932
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:45,359
that

933
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:49,839
where everyone was like creating a band

934
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:51,520
and in rock history you got these

935
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:54,079
amazing musicians guitarists and

936
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:56,079
drummers and singers and

937
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:58,319
songwriters it's just like all was

938
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:59,359
happening

939
00:44:01,589 --> 00:44:00,319
uh

940
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:01,599
what happened i think as you got toward

941
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:02,960
the 21st century is that the

942
00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:04,800
corporations

943
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:06,640
actually just took over everything

944
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:07,599
and the

945
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:08,960
the

946
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:11,599
groups became a product to sell

947
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:13,760
with teams and marketing and everything

948
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,400
else and i i think a lot has been lost i

949
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:18,240
don't really think it's not that none of

950
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:20,000
that exists anymore but i don't i don't

951
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,319
think it's anywhere near what it was in

952
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:25,200
decades past yeah i miss it uh have you

953
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,359
i i'll and you bring up the corporate

954
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:29,119
side of this um

955
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:31,599
and i'm gonna i'm gonna weave this into

956
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:33,839
ufos believe it or not or at least

957
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:36,160
asteroids have you seen the movie don't

958
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:38,400
look up

959
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,359
on netflix oh richard i don't know i

960
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:43,839
mean okay okay all right all right you

961
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:44,960
know what i know it's supposed to be

962
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:46,960
good that we're gonna end this

963
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:48,880
conversation now i'll just bring you

964
00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:50,160
back tomorrow night you can answer the

965
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:51,040
phones

966
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:54,000
i'm gonna i almost i'm thinking like

967
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:55,760
well there are movies like tracy will

968
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:58,000
tell you like i throw things at the

969
00:45:01,829 --> 00:44:59,920
screen when i watch movies

970
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:01,839
watch yeah i get mad like i don't like

971
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:03,920
being preached at and that that's the

972
00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:05,119
movie

973
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:07,839
i know they supposedly hit all sides

974
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:09,760
whatever i just feel like it just seemed

975
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:12,160
like a freaking preachy movie no i don't

976
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,800
like

977
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:14,720
movies it's a comedy

978
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:17,200
um it's a comedy

979
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:18,880
front to front to back

980
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:19,839
um

981
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:22,960
and but but that's not even my point

982
00:45:29,829 --> 00:45:25,839
it's that the point that i'm making

983
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:29,839
is they have a pop star in this movie

984
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:31,040
um okay

985
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:34,000
played by uh ariana grande

986
00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:35,280
really well

987
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:39,599
um and and that's what a pop star is

988
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:42,160
today is exactly the way that she's

989
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:43,520
portrayed in there

990
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:46,400
and okay and if so yeah that's the

991
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:48,079
problem no

992
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,680
i know it's satire it makes fun of

993
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:51,599
things i'm i'm sure there's elements of

994
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:53,040
it that i would probably oh you would

995
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:55,040
love it man i know you too well i'm

996
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:57,680
telling you right now all right maybe

997
00:46:03,510 --> 00:45:58,960
and

998
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,520
kind of blue so there you go you you got

999
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,839
that going now uh we're gonna we're

1000
00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:07,680
gonna cut you off from mildly doing a

1001
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:09,520
little too much with the mine too much

1002
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,640
with the miles the um

1003
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:14,640
cutting you up you

1004
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:15,520
uh

1005
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:18,720
your your timeliness of the

1006
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:20,480
conversations that you're having right

1007
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:21,520
now

1008
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:24,720
over at richard dolan members um

1009
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:27,119
is is pretty strange because

1010
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:29,680
i've been speaking about this

1011
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,160
you know for about the last two months

1012
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:35,119
um about my own personal experiences and

1013
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:36,480
and how i've been holding back some of

1014
00:46:40,829 --> 00:46:39,280
this i discussed with you earlier today

1015
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:40,839
and

1016
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:44,560
um i want to i i actually want to

1017
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:47,599
address a few of the points and and get

1018
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:49,280
your take on this

1019
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:51,920
um and and the over i guess if there's

1020
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,920
an overarching

1021
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:54,960
uh

1022
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:57,440
title to this is that

1023
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:00,319
um ufo research

1024
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:02,560
uh may be in danger

1025
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,480
for a lot of different reasons

1026
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:06,400
um what

1027
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:09,599
what motivated you uh to jump into this

1028
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:11,119
right now

1029
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:12,480
well some i've been thinking about this

1030
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:15,040
for a while and um all during the last

1031
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:17,040
two years of the revolution

1032
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:18,240
that's what we're living in we're living

1033
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:20,480
in a global revolution

1034
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:22,160
uh and even before that you could really

1035
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:23,760
see the writing on the wall like you

1036
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:25,599
could see it even five years ago when

1037
00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:28,000
youtube started to to uh

1038
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:30,559
sort of gin up their algorithms to

1039
00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:33,040
to change uh things in favor of

1040
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:34,240
corporate players which they've been

1041
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:35,760
doing ever since

1042
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:38,480
like you could just see it and um but

1043
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:40,079
yeah what what's

1044
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:42,240
like people have to understand like i've

1045
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:44,160
been i've been talking about this theme

1046
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:46,319
for a while and i i can't let it go

1047
00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:48,079
because i think it's too important which

1048
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:50,079
is that we are living in a

1049
00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:53,599
first ever global revolution it is a top

1050
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:55,839
down there's not this is not a people's

1051
00:48:04,870 --> 00:47:57,200
revolution

1052
00:48:07,109 --> 00:48:04,880
i firmly believe this and it's directed

1053
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:07,119
you know by the dr evil the people out

1054
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:10,079
of davos and and um the financial elites

1055
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:11,119
and

1056
00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:12,880
we all know who they are

1057
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:14,559
and they dominate national governments

1058
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,640
pretty much mostly around the world

1059
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:18,400
and they are pushing through an agenda

1060
00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:21,040
to turn humanity into one big anthill

1061
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:22,319
that's what i believe

1062
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:24,559
and so in the context of that

1063
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:26,480
uh we are seeing now with an

1064
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:28,000
unbelievable

1065
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:29,520
swiftness

1066
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:31,440
uh the imposition of i mean we used to

1067
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:33,280
talk about censorship

1068
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:34,640
i don't even know what we're going into

1069
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:36,960
now like we're into a global

1070
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:40,000
a global censorship where everyone or

1071
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,079
most everyone is afraid to say anything

1072
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:44,160
they're afraid to speak their mind

1073
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,480
and if you've got an audience

1074
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:48,480
you're definitely afraid because you

1075
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,079
know you try to make your money on the

1076
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:52,319
on the major platforms and we know what

1077
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:54,880
the major platforms are doing and

1078
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:57,760
so it's it's just bad um

1079
00:49:01,990 --> 00:48:59,920
the current war going on in eastern

1080
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,000
europe and ukraine is another example

1081
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:04,640
where you are not allowed you are not

1082
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:06,880
allowed to offer a different opinion

1083
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:09,119
than what people are being hammered at

1084
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:11,599
24 7 in terms of the propaganda

1085
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:14,960
and so it's the same with ufos um

1086
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:17,680
there there's a safe ufology that's uh

1087
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:20,160
clearly emerging

1088
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:23,359
and uh that's that's not my ufology

1089
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:27,119
you know there there's a ufo research

1090
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:30,480
and i'm not here to to criticize um

1091
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,079
the people who have been able to get the

1092
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:34,160
ufo's subject

1093
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:38,400
greater public play lou elizondo

1094
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:40,480
you know you and i both know him we both

1095
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:42,880
had long conversations with him

1096
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,079
or chris mellon or um the folks at ttsa

1097
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:49,040
formerly tdsa like i do believe that

1098
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:50,000
their

1099
00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:52,400
motivations have been good

1100
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:54,319
in wanting to get the ufo subject out to

1101
00:50:03,270 --> 00:49:55,200
the

1102
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:03,280
corporate media to look at us or if

1103
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:04,160
we're going to get the political

1104
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:06,000
institutions to look at us we have to be

1105
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:07,599
careful

1106
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:09,839
i'm like yeah i we all get that but

1107
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,960
what's happened is that what's you know

1108
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,880
the conversation and ufology is really

1109
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:16,240
mirroring what's happening in the rest

1110
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:18,559
of our world which is that certain

1111
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:19,760
things are safe to talk about and

1112
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:22,319
certain things just do not ever get

1113
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:23,920
discussed

1114
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:27,599
in terms of ufology we're at this okay

1115
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:29,520
level right is there something out there

1116
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:31,040
yeah i got to get inside of your head

1117
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:34,160
real quick um and then let's continue we

1118
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:35,280
have uh

1119
00:50:38,829 --> 00:50:36,800
we have the rest of the night when you

1120
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:38,839
say certain things are not to be

1121
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:41,760
discussed give me an example

1122
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:43,359
well anything having to do with the

1123
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:45,920
illegal criminal nature of the cover-up

1124
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:47,839
for starters okay

1125
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:49,520
all right so like we can't get into that

1126
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:50,559
right

1127
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:52,400
like you you can't talk about the the

1128
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:55,119
fact that even you know federal

1129
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:56,720
government agencies don't seem to have a

1130
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:58,640
whole lot of control over this this

1131
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:01,280
if they do who the hell are they doe

1132
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:03,040
okay sure a dod

1133
00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:05,200
but you're talking massive privatization

1134
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:06,559
of this secret i've been talking about

1135
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,960
this for years i'm not the only one

1136
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:10,400
so that's one thing

1137
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:11,920
but then let's you could even go further

1138
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:13,520
than that you know there's a whole bunch

1139
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,440
of red lines that just

1140
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,680
i mean acknowledging the conspiracy is

1141
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:19,680
is definitely a big one though because

1142
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:22,400
we are now in a world in which you are

1143
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,119
literally not supposed to talk about

1144
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,280
conspiracy theories however those are

1145
00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:29,599
even loosely defined with ever-changing

1146
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:30,960
goal posts

1147
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:33,440
so i mean just imagine

1148
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:35,359
you're not supposed to talk about

1149
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:37,760
conspiracies or election fraud or

1150
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:39,280
anything else like

1151
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:41,280
even though we've always talked about

1152
00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:42,800
those types of things in american

1153
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:44,960
history but now you can't

1154
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:47,200
well can can anyone actually imagine the

1155
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:49,119
united states government officially

1156
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:50,240
saying well don't believe in any of

1157
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:51,920
those other conspiracies well the ufo

1158
00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:54,160
one yeah yeah only the biggest one i

1159
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:56,240
mean what is bigger than the ufo

1160
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:58,160
cover-up the answer is not down to it

1161
00:52:02,470 --> 00:52:00,079
arguably nothing right

1162
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:02,480
it's certainly one of the biggest and um

1163
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:03,920
so no there i just don't think there's

1164
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:05,119
going to be

1165
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:08,000
any voluntary way by which the united

1166
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:09,119
states government is ever going to

1167
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:11,200
acknowledge a real cover-up a real

1168
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:14,000
conspiracy uh it just won't play well in

1169
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,079
the current environment so that's that's

1170
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:18,400
one red line but there's a whole bunch

1171
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,200
the ufo subject is an incredibly

1172
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:23,760
uncomfortable subject

1173
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:25,119
are we going to get into a discussion

1174
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:26,720
about the acquisition of exotic

1175
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,160
technology or

1176
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:30,160
exotic bodies

1177
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:32,079
i mean the exotic tech argument that's

1178
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:34,240
that's a world-changing thing right

1179
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:36,800
there what's the tech that you've got do

1180
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:38,480
you have like really functional

1181
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:41,440
metamaterials do you have a power plant

1182
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:43,119
uh do you have something that functions

1183
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:44,640
on i don't know zero point energy or

1184
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,520
something

1185
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:47,599
equal or better or what have you like

1186
00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:50,640
these are world-changing technologies

1187
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:52,079
and they are

1188
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:54,800
certainly we're not even close

1189
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:55,920
to

1190
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:58,000
broaching those subjects

1191
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:00,800
do you see do you see do you see

1192
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:02,880
a possibility of

1193
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:06,000
of regulation or legislation or control

1194
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:07,680
of those subjects

1195
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:08,640
you know where

1196
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:11,680
not anything that'll be positive no no

1197
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:13,440
but that's not what i'm uh that's not

1198
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:15,040
where i'm going i'm talking about

1199
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:16,720
censorship

1200
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:20,240
yeah of our views yeah by uh making it

1201
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:23,520
criminal to discuss this or to censor

1202
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:25,520
yes yes second app absolutely you think

1203
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:27,760
so no question

1204
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:29,280
obviously

1205
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:30,800
not this think of all the things five

1206
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:32,400
years ago that were that's what seemed

1207
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:33,839
impossible that's right and that we're

1208
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:35,040
not living in

1209
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,400
that's right you know who would have

1210
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,480
thought we you would have to have a

1211
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:40,559
a qr code

1212
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:42,720
to take with you to travel around the

1213
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:45,280
world now america hasn't made that

1214
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:46,800
universal but we're they're getting

1215
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:48,240
there they're following all the other

1216
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,599
countries

1217
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,760
so no we're we're moving

1218
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:53,680
at the speed of light into into

1219
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:54,720
full-blown

1220
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:56,480
uh digital dictatorship

1221
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:59,119
as one individual recently described it

1222
00:54:02,950 --> 00:54:00,559
digital dictatorship i think that's

1223
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:02,960
about right so no nothing is off the

1224
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:04,000
table

1225
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,920
nothing um

1226
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:08,000
these things you know criminalize

1227
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:09,520
elements of

1228
00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:11,040
i mean look the department of home uh

1229
00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:12,720
homeland security

1230
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:14,079
just

1231
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:16,400
earlier like one month ago

1232
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,160
one month ago

1233
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:20,880
classified misinformation

1234
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:22,480
essentially as a form of terrorism they

1235
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:24,240
put out a memo in the beginning of

1236
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:27,359
february a bulletin i guess i should say

1237
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:30,880
uh which talked about what they call uh

1238
00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:31,680
miss

1239
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:36,079
uh dis and mal information mdm

1240
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:37,520
and these are

1241
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:39,440
these are the that was actually the

1242
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:42,240
number one thing that they list listed

1243
00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:44,960
as of factors contributing to the

1244
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:47,280
current heightened threat environment as

1245
00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:49,280
they called it the proliferation of

1246
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:51,599
false or misleading narratives which so

1247
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:52,720
discord

1248
00:55:02,309 --> 00:54:53,760
so

1249
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:02,319
uh to put it in into the ufo context

1250
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:03,200
uh

1251
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:05,440
i put out a video i have a guest on the

1252
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:07,599
show i have richard dolan on

1253
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:08,559
and

1254
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:09,359
uh

1255
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:11,760
i show an image

1256
00:55:14,910 --> 00:55:13,920
and i talk about

1257
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:14,920
uh

1258
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:17,920
anti-gravity technology that may have

1259
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:18,799
been

1260
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:23,200
backwards engineered from a a

1261
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:26,160
crashed craft a retrieved craft

1262
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:30,000
and you discuss evidence that supports

1263
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:31,119
this

1264
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:33,200
that could fall under the classification

1265
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:35,920
of misinformation or disinformation and

1266
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:38,079
absolutely absolutely it could

1267
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:40,319
really by their standards i mean think

1268
00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:42,319
of all the things in the last couple of

1269
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:44,079
years that were said to be

1270
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:45,920
misinformation which oh yeah by the way

1271
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:48,160
turned out to be true

1272
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:50,880
like quite a few things i mean with this

1273
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:57,109
so

1274
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:58,559
no anything can be classified as

1275
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,640
misinformation half the youtube videos i

1276
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:02,160
put up have some kind of freaking

1277
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:03,839
disclaimer on them

1278
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:07,280
uh wikipedia references or whatever

1279
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,960
yeah they're coming out abduction well

1280
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,559
there goes the wikipedia reference sorry

1281
00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:12,720
to my youtube channel so no they're

1282
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,319
constantly you know we're living in a

1283
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:16,319
nanny state already a little finger

1284
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:18,079
wagging school arm that tells you can't

1285
00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:20,480
say this can't say that

1286
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:23,119
um so that's already the case and

1287
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:25,119
i mean the ufo

1288
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,000
subject has been so fringe for so long

1289
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,559
you know it's easy for them for them the

1290
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:32,799
power elite let's call them to ignore it

1291
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:34,640
or laugh it off they've been able to do

1292
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:37,920
that for many years so it hasn't

1293
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:39,760
you know it's not like it's kind of an

1294
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:41,359
immediate threat

1295
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:43,520
but

1296
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,520
i think that will change because we're

1297
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:47,760
at a point now where

1298
00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:49,839
um in the last four and a half years

1299
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:51,760
we've seen a definite opening in public

1300
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:54,160
discourse at least on the

1301
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:56,799
likely reality of uap as they want to

1302
00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:59,760
redefine it so i think the more real

1303
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:02,160
that becomes

1304
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:04,960
it could be i mean it could be that

1305
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:06,400
there will be an attempt to control a

1306
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:08,319
narrative i guess it really all comes

1307
00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:10,880
down to how successful are people like

1308
00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:13,280
myself and others who really care about

1309
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:14,640
looking at the criminal nature of the

1310
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:17,520
cover-up how successful are we

1311
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:18,480
in

1312
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:23,200
and if if we are successful if we do

1313
00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:25,119
raise enough of a ruckus

1314
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:26,559
i mean so far it hasn't happened but if

1315
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:27,440
we do

1316
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,960
then yes i think the hammer will come

1317
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:31,280
down and one thing that's also not

1318
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:35,920
discussed is who are the people behind

1319
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:38,160
this whole phenomenon

1320
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:40,480
there's a massive infrastructure and

1321
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:42,559
it's not just u.s black budget tech

1322
00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:44,640
that's big that's important

1323
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:46,160
but someone one of the things that i

1324
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,760
love studying in the ufo field

1325
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,440
especially lately because i am working

1326
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:51,520
on volume three of ufos and the national

1327
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:55,680
security state so i'm reading a ton of

1328
00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:58,640
of uh just forgotten ufo reports among

1329
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,559
other things it's fascinating

1330
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,400
one of the things that i've really

1331
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:04,480
just become absolutely almost obsessed

1332
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:05,760
by

1333
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:08,720
are these reports of 2 a.m 3 a.m

1334
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:10,160
someone going outside their house and

1335
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:12,000
seeing a black triangle hovering at like

1336
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:14,720
200 feet over their neighborhood

1337
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,799
silent almost invisible but they can see

1338
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:17,920
it

1339
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:21,119
these reports are so frequent

1340
00:58:23,829 --> 00:58:22,960
this and it's not just over the united

1341
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,839
states

1342
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:25,440
they're in australia they're in they're

1343
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:26,720
in europe they're in other countries

1344
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:28,240
around the world

1345
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:29,920
this is

1346
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:30,720
like

1347
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,599
what what would anyone be doing

1348
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:35,520
at 200 feet

1349
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,440
at three in the morning

1350
00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:39,760
over a neighborhood dead silent

1351
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:41,599
sometimes shining a light down come to

1352
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:44,960
palmdale you can write your own report

1353
00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:45,920
all right

1354
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:48,240
well the point i'm making is this is a

1355
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:50,400
very massive clandestine

1356
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:52,799
yes operate this is not a phenomenon

1357
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:55,520
this is an operation i agree and and it

1358
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:58,400
requires tremendous resources of someone

1359
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:00,799
and whoever whatever equivalent of money

1360
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:02,720
so so who are these people and what are

1361
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:05,440
they doing and then

1362
00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:06,559
furthermore

1363
00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:07,839
since i'm on a little bit of a role and

1364
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,480
you're being nice to me about this

1365
00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:12,240
you know for years and years i went on

1366
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:14,240
this assumption that well aliens had to

1367
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:15,599
look like aliens they had to look like

1368
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:16,880
grays

1369
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:18,799
but i had to stop that

1370
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,760
i got two way too many reports

1371
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:23,760
directly from people

1372
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:25,440
other reports that i've read from good

1373
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,799
researchers of

1374
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:28,640
beings that look totally human they look

1375
00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:31,359
just like us but they're not like us who

1376
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:32,799
are these people

1377
00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:35,520
what are they and and we're often afraid

1378
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:37,119
to talk about it because it seems crazy

1379
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:38,480
it's like oh invasion of the body

1380
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:40,960
snatchers whatever but the fact is when

1381
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:42,799
the data keeps coming at you over and

1382
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:44,480
over again what do you do with it do you

1383
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:46,799
just ignore it i can't ignore it anymore

1384
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:48,799
so there's and i wrote about this in my

1385
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:50,720
last book uh about a year ago the alien

1386
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:53,520
agendas the human looking beings who are

1387
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:55,280
they and i don't know

1388
00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:57,040
fully who they all are i think there's

1389
01:00:02,150 --> 00:59:58,880
more than one group of these

1390
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:02,160
but the fact is that is a factor

1391
01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:03,119
and so

1392
01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:04,160
these are

1393
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:05,680
uncomfortable questions because if

1394
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:09,760
there's a genuine disclosure event

1395
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:11,040
uh

1396
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:14,240
my old friend steve bassett would say

1397
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:16,319
well all disclosure really

1398
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:18,400
means is that the president says that

1399
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:19,920
ufos are real

1400
01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:21,599
well all right fine but that's actually

1401
01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:24,079
just the bare beginning

1402
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:25,280
of

1403
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:29,520
tried writing a book about this over 10

1404
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:32,640
years ago with bryce isabel and

1405
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:34,640
that was a nice adventure for us but the

1406
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:36,720
fact is that opening up disclosure as a

1407
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:39,680
topic is a can of worms beyond anything

1408
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:42,000
that is imaginable it's endless so these

1409
01:00:45,670 --> 01:00:44,160
are red lines that are not being asked

1410
01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:45,680
in our current environment today and i

1411
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don't think they will be

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let's take a break let's get this in

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01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:51,359
richard dolan is our guest we're talking

1414
01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:54,480
about our crazy world today we've got a

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01:00:57,190 --> 01:00:56,160
lot to go through tonight you stay right

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01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:57,200
there kids

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this is fade to black on the unexit game

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changer networks race hobbs i am your

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host jimmy church

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we'll be right back more with richard

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after this short break stay with us

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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jimmy church and fade to black on the

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hi racehobbs with the x obviously if

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you're listening to this you have an

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interest in unexplained phenomena like

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ghosts bigfoot and ufos and by now you

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know that we have our own ex-blog the

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and wayne lawrence lee spiegel debbie

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as we set out to explain the unexplained

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01:05:21,029 --> 01:05:18,799
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01:05:26,069 --> 01:05:23,039
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01:06:00,710 --> 01:05:58,319
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01:06:02,829 --> 01:06:00,720
holds the lucky pony record for the best

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01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:07,839
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01:06:11,420 --> 01:06:09,440
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01:06:15,390 --> 01:06:11,430
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01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:15,400
[Music]

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01:06:32,230 --> 01:06:15,730
[Applause]

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01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:33,910
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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01:06:37,230 --> 01:06:35,680
jimmy church tonight richard bleep and

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01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:37,240
dolan is with us

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01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:39,680
[Music]

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01:06:45,109 --> 01:06:41,039
if you ever get a chance to hang out

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01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:45,119
with richard uh i i suggest that you do

1532
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:46,640
and uh

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01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:49,039
get him to start swearing like a sailor

1534
01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:51,039
he's polite on this show he's he's

1535
01:06:55,190 --> 01:06:53,440
polite but uh there's

1536
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,200
you know there's nothing like that first

1537
01:06:58,950 --> 01:06:57,520
time you're like whoa

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01:07:01,270 --> 01:06:58,960
richard

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01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:01,280
do you remember uh i want to get back to

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01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:03,440
uh current ufo research

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01:07:08,549 --> 01:07:06,400
um but uh

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01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:08,559
i'm not gonna say where who when or what

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01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:09,920
i'm not gonna i'm not gonna go there

1544
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:12,880
let's not do that um but there was a

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01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:15,920
moment when you and i we had a we had a

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01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:17,599
crowd around us

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01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:19,839
and uh and we had a couple of shots of

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01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:21,039
vodka

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01:07:26,829 --> 01:07:24,799
and you turned to me and said loudly in

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01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:26,839
front of everybody okay

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01:07:34,549 --> 01:07:31,760
church let's talk about bob lazar right

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01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:34,559
and everybody leaned in

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01:07:36,309 --> 01:07:35,440
and

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01:07:38,230 --> 01:07:36,319
uh

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01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:38,240
you were very passionate

1556
01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:46,309
i was like okay let's go yeah i'm

1557
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,520
guessing it was

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01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:48,960
well um

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01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:51,680
you know i i'm sure i didn't trash him

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01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:53,680
uh no you didn't

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01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:56,079
you didn't you didn't you know but but

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01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:57,599
the point being

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01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:59,200
that uh

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01:08:02,950 --> 01:08:01,200
you can be very passionate you could be

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01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:02,960
very passionate

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01:08:09,109 --> 01:08:05,039
on occasion around the edges it's been

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01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:09,119
known to happen so uh back to

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back to um

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it doesn't take much

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01:08:18,390 --> 01:08:15,200
um

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01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:18,400
with uh youtube and twitter and facebook

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01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:20,880
uh to throw a shot across the bow

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01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:24,640
and and to cause you

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01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:26,400
you specifically

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01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:28,000
any creator

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01:08:31,910 --> 01:08:31,199
out there content creator to uh to back

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01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:31,920
up

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01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:33,759
and i'm gonna say this

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01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:34,960
richard

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01:08:39,669 --> 01:08:36,799
last month

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01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:39,679
i got this strange email from youtube

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01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:41,679
and it said

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01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:46,000
we pulled down a video of yours

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01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:47,279
and

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01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:49,199
if we

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01:08:53,749 --> 01:08:51,040
and well anyway

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01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:53,759
if we do it one more time you will lose

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01:08:57,590 --> 01:08:56,000
your channel

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01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:57,600
and and and this was the you know why

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01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:01,990
so i went and i looked at the video i

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really

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01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:07,679
let me tell you something

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01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:11,920
i went and deleted probably 10 videos

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01:09:18,309 --> 01:09:14,719
um just just to be on the safe side you

1595
01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:18,319
know and i've got i've got 15 1600

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01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:20,719
videos right on the account

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01:09:24,789 --> 01:09:23,520
what what did i and this video

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01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:24,799
specifically

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four years old

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four

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01:09:33,110 --> 01:09:31,120
whoa yeah going back retroactive loss

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01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:33,120
yeah yeah yeah yeah

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01:09:37,510 --> 01:09:35,199
people people love to

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01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:37,520
i understand like when uh

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01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:39,440
people get angry at

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01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:42,560
uh celebrities or or public figures who

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01:09:46,070 --> 01:09:44,239
seem to be chicken chickening out or

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01:09:47,749 --> 01:09:46,080
backing down

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01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:47,759
uh hollywood of course is famous for

1610
01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:49,839
that they love to pile on but but of

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01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:52,480
course i think a lot of people realize

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01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:53,759
there are people who make their living

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01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:54,880
doing this

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01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:56,320
like

1615
01:10:00,310 --> 01:09:58,000
you know this is a business model

1616
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:00,320
youtube this is the genius of youtube

1617
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:03,040
it's become a profitable or at least a

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01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:05,040
viable business model for content

1619
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:06,560
creators

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01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:08,880
and it allows them to

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01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:12,000
actually to do genuinely often good work

1622
01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:13,679
and to get paid for it with the ads and

1623
01:10:18,550 --> 01:10:15,920
so forth and but of course youtube now

1624
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:18,560
has all that power and youtube is owned

1625
01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:20,800
by google and google is owned by the cia

1626
01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:22,480
oh why i shouldn't have said that what

1627
01:10:26,229 --> 01:10:24,640
is that cocaine importing agency so

1628
01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:26,239
they're owned by the cia which started

1629
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:28,560
them basically in the 90s

1630
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:30,960
and which is a fact

1631
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:33,760
so so we're in a situation now where all

1632
01:10:39,430 --> 01:10:36,320
of us content creators like we have to

1633
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:39,440
diversify our income if it's possible

1634
01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:41,440
but if it's not possible

1635
01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:42,960
they got you

1636
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:45,199
can i say balls on your show they got

1637
01:10:50,229 --> 01:10:48,400
you by the balls yeah yeah and and and

1638
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:50,239
here's the thing

1639
01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:51,360
if um

1640
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:54,400
i remember uh when

1641
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:56,880
things were going crazy four years ago

1642
01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:59,199
right and channels were getting dropped

1643
01:11:01,750 --> 01:11:00,719
left and right

1644
01:11:03,510 --> 01:11:01,760
um

1645
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:03,520
uh and i had to

1646
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:05,280
when our democracy was under threat four

1647
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:06,640
years ago because of the way the

1648
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:08,080
election turned out

1649
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:09,360
that that one

1650
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:11,199
not like today well see but here's the

1651
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:14,239
deal um when and when all of that was

1652
01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:18,159
happening and uh to some uh some of it

1653
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:20,640
was even to people that you and i know

1654
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,960
and and i started to get you know these

1655
01:11:28,470 --> 01:11:24,960
emails and and mornings going you know

1656
01:11:30,229 --> 01:11:28,480
church um ufos are next

1657
01:11:32,709 --> 01:11:30,239
right now you think it's about this and

1658
01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:32,719
this and this and this but yeah but you

1659
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:35,040
watch and i thought no

1660
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:36,239
really

1661
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:39,120
and i'll tell you why richard

1662
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:40,480
the foundation

1663
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:45,760
behind youtube

1664
01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:47,520
was freedom of thought

1665
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:51,360
and it was out there for the people that

1666
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:53,520
were watching these videos

1667
01:11:58,070 --> 01:11:55,440
to make up their own minds if they

1668
01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:58,080
bought into it or not and that one of

1669
01:12:02,310 --> 01:12:00,560
the great things that i used to enjoy

1670
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:02,320
about youtube is watching these crazy

1671
01:12:07,750 --> 01:12:05,280
conspiracy videos these crazy

1672
01:12:08,790 --> 01:12:07,760
whatever and watching them sometimes

1673
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:08,800
laughing

1674
01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:11,440
but just going there for the crazy

1675
01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:13,840
conspiracy theories on

1676
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:14,960
uh

1677
01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:17,760
battles of extraterrestrials out in the

1678
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,239
universe and taking over the world and

1679
01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:22,800
and reptilians running you know the

1680
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:25,840
planet today and what who the illuminati

1681
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:28,320
was and how this is involved and you

1682
01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:30,239
know what that that was the foundation

1683
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:31,600
of youtube

1684
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:35,280
was to grow itself as a business model

1685
01:12:38,950 --> 01:12:37,920
and it used freedom of thought for many

1686
01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:38,960
years

1687
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:41,760
as the best engine for doing that but

1688
01:12:45,910 --> 01:12:44,000
we have to keep in mind

1689
01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:45,920
we're in a revolution

1690
01:12:50,709 --> 01:12:48,400
we are witnessing a revolution google

1691
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:50,719
and youtube are part of that revolution

1692
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:51,520
it's

1693
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:53,040
really that simple and so

1694
01:12:58,229 --> 01:12:54,960
what what is this revolution it's it's

1695
01:13:01,510 --> 01:12:58,239
something that's going to transform

1696
01:13:02,830 --> 01:13:01,520
um our legal system our economic system

1697
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:02,840
our

1698
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:11,440
looking at a

1699
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:12,480
global

1700
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:14,480
economic transformation that's already

1701
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:16,560
been happening for a long time

1702
01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:19,040
you've got a prospect of the world

1703
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:21,040
leaders looking at the masses of

1704
01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:22,320
humanity is like what are we going to do

1705
01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:23,840
with these people there's not enough

1706
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:25,199
jobs for them

1707
01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:26,960
we're going to put them all in a ubi

1708
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:28,960
have them sit around eat nachos and

1709
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:31,120
watch youtube videos

1710
01:13:33,430 --> 01:13:32,320
all right well fine but you've got to

1711
01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:33,440
have them watching things that are going

1712
01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:35,040
to keep them dull

1713
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:36,800
and keep i mean this is this isn't just

1714
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:39,360
a business model this it is it's a

1715
01:13:43,030 --> 01:13:41,040
business model but it's a political

1716
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:43,040
control model

1717
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:44,880
and i think youtube is just turning

1718
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:47,040
itself into into tv

1719
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:48,640
now slowly but sure

1720
01:13:53,669 --> 01:13:51,040
sure sure

1721
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:53,679
i just got a youtube ad uh on my

1722
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:55,280
television

1723
01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:56,480
it's uh

1724
01:14:01,990 --> 01:13:58,400
are you ready i'm sure you've seen the

1725
01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:02,000
same thing i think it's 70 bucks a month

1726
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:03,920
for youtube tv

1727
01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:06,480
70 bucks a month

1728
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:08,320
i literally have not watched tv well i

1729
01:14:12,470 --> 01:14:10,480
mean i have netflix and i've got amazon

1730
01:14:13,910 --> 01:14:12,480
prime so right i'm part of the problem

1731
01:14:15,189 --> 01:14:13,920
too but i don't have a i don't have

1732
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:15,199
cable tv

1733
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:17,520
no this is yeah this is a this is their

1734
01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:20,640
streaming platform uh with 70 bucks a

1735
01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:22,480
month for youtube tv why the hell would

1736
01:14:28,149 --> 01:14:24,640
someone do that well you don't get it

1737
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:28,159
they carry live uh

1738
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:30,880
local channels well the point is though

1739
01:14:34,709 --> 01:14:33,120
you're right i mean they're turning this

1740
01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:34,719
into

1741
01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:38,800
uh a tv network and and they want here's

1742
01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:40,800
but here's i think the point corporate

1743
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:43,600
corporate controlled if if if you which

1744
01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:45,520
means intelligence community control

1745
01:14:50,390 --> 01:14:48,400
right and if ufos start to fall under

1746
01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:50,400
conspiracy theory

1747
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:52,159
and you know under the same

1748
01:14:54,830 --> 01:14:54,000
classification as

1749
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:54,840
uh

1750
01:15:02,550 --> 01:14:59,120
vaccinations or covid or election fraud

1751
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:02,560
or whatever it whatever what if you

1752
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:05,760
if if ufos fall under that

1753
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:07,600
there's going to be no

1754
01:15:11,510 --> 01:15:09,600
effective view of full research that is

1755
01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:11,520
going to end up getting posted

1756
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:13,520
this already is happening so a little

1757
01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:16,239
over a year ago google has a unit called

1758
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:21,510
and they have it their own website

1759
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:23,440
i'm looking at it now a safer internet

1760
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:25,600
means a safer world so google's jigsaw

1761
01:15:30,870 --> 01:15:29,360
unit is about making the internet safe

1762
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:30,880
that's the words everything's got to be

1763
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:33,040
safe so one thing that they did a little

1764
01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:35,280
over one year ago

1765
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:37,600
i'm not making this i wish i were making

1766
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:40,719
this up google jigsaw approached rand

1767
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:42,400
corporation

1768
01:15:46,149 --> 01:15:44,800
like the biggest defense think tank

1769
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:46,159
probably in the united states i mean

1770
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:48,159
they've been around since the 1940s they

1771
01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:49,920
done work for the cia for the defense

1772
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:53,280
department like highest high level

1773
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:56,000
stuff right so google goes to them

1774
01:16:00,470 --> 01:15:58,239
and they ask a simple question

1775
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:00,480
how can we better detect the spread of

1776
01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:03,440
conspiracy theories and then they say at

1777
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:06,560
scale so like across the web not just

1778
01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:09,120
using their like thousands of sensors to

1779
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:11,600
get into your social media but

1780
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:14,000
using algorithms to detect conspiracy

1781
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:15,760
theories like how do you do that

1782
01:16:20,149 --> 01:16:17,600
and rand was like oh wow we would love

1783
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:20,159
to work on this problem and they did and

1784
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:21,920
they were so proud of it it's published

1785
01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:25,040
uh online at rand corporation's website

1786
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:27,199
called detecting conspiracy theories on

1787
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:30,080
social media and what one thing they did

1788
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:32,320
this is like evil and brilliant in equal

1789
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:33,440
measure

1790
01:16:36,149 --> 01:16:34,400
they

1791
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:36,159
were very proud of their

1792
01:16:39,510 --> 01:16:37,920
system for detecting

1793
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:39,520
conspiratorial thinking and they and

1794
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:41,600
they tested this

1795
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:43,600
uh algorithm or this series of

1796
01:16:49,590 --> 01:16:46,320
algorithms on four different groups

1797
01:16:51,350 --> 01:16:49,600
uh one group was

1798
01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:51,360
uh the people who believe that kovitz

1799
01:16:55,270 --> 01:16:53,040
started in a lab god forbid that's a

1800
01:16:57,189 --> 01:16:55,280
conspiracy theory

1801
01:17:02,229 --> 01:16:57,199
uh

1802
01:17:04,390 --> 01:17:02,239
in there i'm trying to remember and just

1803
01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:04,400
not getting vaccinated i guess

1804
01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:05,760
there was the white replacement

1805
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:07,520
conspiracy theory so white people being

1806
01:17:10,070 --> 01:17:09,280
replaced by immigration and what have

1807
01:17:12,149 --> 01:17:10,080
you

1808
01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:12,159
and then the last

1809
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:15,360
conspiracy theory they went into was ufo

1810
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:18,480
they use they use these four groups

1811
01:17:23,590 --> 01:17:21,440
to test their algorithm

1812
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:23,600
and to detect what they consider to be

1813
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:26,159
conspiratorial type of thinking so rand

1814
01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:28,320
was already on top of it now

1815
01:17:32,149 --> 01:17:30,320
they completed their study they gave

1816
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:32,159
that back to google's jigsaw which i'm

1817
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:34,159
i've no doubt google's like taken that

1818
01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:35,520
and tweaked it

1819
01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:37,199
you know in million different ways to

1820
01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:38,560
make it even better

1821
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:40,159
and i'll guarantee you they're employing

1822
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:41,040
that

1823
01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:42,880
algorithm right now

1824
01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:46,080
to squash conspiratorial thinking as

1825
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:48,400
they see it and it just so happened that

1826
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:50,159
rand on their own initiative said yeah

1827
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:52,239
let's look at the ufo people that's one

1828
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:54,800
of them so they you know the elite the

1829
01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:57,360
establishment they already see

1830
01:18:03,110 --> 01:17:59,520
the ufo

1831
01:18:04,950 --> 01:18:03,120
subject as conspiracy theory

1832
01:18:10,310 --> 01:18:04,960
and the phrase conspiracy theory has

1833
01:18:14,229 --> 01:18:12,630
you know in such a way that even even

1834
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:14,239
like youtube commentators not the

1835
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:16,080
mainstream people but like that cut

1836
01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:17,920
below like they're all afraid of

1837
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:19,600
conspiracy theory oh this isn't a

1838
01:18:23,189 --> 01:18:21,600
conspiracy theory it's like will you

1839
01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:23,199
just stop with that stop embarrassing

1840
01:18:27,750 --> 01:18:24,719
all of us by talking like this

1841
01:18:30,709 --> 01:18:27,760
conspiracies happen every day we live in

1842
01:18:31,990 --> 01:18:30,719
a world of conspiracies

1843
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:32,000
we're going to pretend all of a sudden

1844
01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:34,719
that powerful people who are actively

1845
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:36,560
transforming the world are not acting in

1846
01:18:40,470 --> 01:18:38,400
a conspiratorial way well how do you

1847
01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:40,480
want to define conspiracy

1848
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:43,360
you can you know have the most minute

1849
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:45,600
sliver of a description and this is how

1850
01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:48,239
you place conspiracies fine but like for

1851
01:18:51,910 --> 01:18:49,520
real people

1852
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:51,920
conspiracies are simply actions that are

1853
01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:53,520
done

1854
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:55,360
on the sly

1855
01:18:57,669 --> 01:18:56,320
because they have to be down on the

1856
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:57,679
slide because if

1857
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:58,880
the rest of the people knew about it

1858
01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:00,719
they'd be angry

1859
01:19:04,229 --> 01:19:02,480
well because they're doing these on the

1860
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,239
slide for their own benefit for power

1861
01:19:08,390 --> 01:19:06,719
and for wealth the classic definition of

1862
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:08,400
conspiracy like if you're going to be

1863
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:10,640
charged with conspiracy in court right

1864
01:19:15,310 --> 01:19:13,040
you and your buddies it's

1865
01:19:18,550 --> 01:19:15,320
two or more people

1866
01:19:20,310 --> 01:19:18,560
conspiring to commit a crime

1867
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:20,320
and i would i would i would

1868
01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:21,679
disagree with that because i don't even

1869
01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:22,400
think

1870
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:24,239
to get real a conspiracy has to be

1871
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:26,880
technically illegal i think that's a bit

1872
01:19:29,910 --> 01:19:28,800
of a mistake we make

1873
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:29,920
you know there's a lot of legal

1874
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:32,480
loopholes in this world sure sure and

1875
01:19:40,070 --> 01:19:37,120
and and the pop culture uh definition

1876
01:19:41,669 --> 01:19:40,080
of conspiracy now it's broad i mean it

1877
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:41,679
just includes

1878
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:43,440
just about anything and you're right

1879
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:45,360
yeah well right they've i mean they've

1880
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:47,199
gone so far

1881
01:19:54,550 --> 01:19:49,120
with i agree with you totally

1882
01:20:00,709 --> 01:19:54,560
is is um uh in a classic sense

1883
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:00,719
is the discussion of a conspiracy not

1884
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:03,840
not not not plotting a conspiracy but

1885
01:20:09,110 --> 01:20:06,719
discussing a conspiracy out of the open

1886
01:20:11,990 --> 01:20:09,120
in a public form

1887
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:12,000
that in of itself with an algorithm can

1888
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:15,199
be misconstrued anyway and then suddenly

1889
01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:17,280
you're a victim of censorship because of

1890
01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:18,560
an algorithm

1891
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:20,639
and the words that you choose to to

1892
01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:25,830
that's right and the

1893
01:20:35,110 --> 01:20:33,910
and additionally i guess i would add

1894
01:20:37,830 --> 01:20:35,120
you know there are

1895
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:37,840
obvious political reasons

1896
01:20:41,430 --> 01:20:40,080
that certain types of so-called

1897
01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:41,440
conspiracies are going to be targeted

1898
01:20:45,750 --> 01:20:43,520
more than others

1899
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:45,760
you know obviously so um

1900
01:20:50,390 --> 01:20:47,760
it's only the bad kinds of conspiracies

1901
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:50,400
that that the powerful are concerned

1902
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:51,360
with

1903
01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:53,199
uh it's great to believe in all kinds of

1904
01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:54,800
other conspiracies that they want you to

1905
01:20:57,430 --> 01:20:56,320
believe in but you you can't believe in

1906
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:57,440
the ones that they don't want you to

1907
01:21:01,030 --> 01:20:58,320
believe in the ones that they're

1908
01:21:03,669 --> 01:21:01,040
actually engaged in doing like you know

1909
01:21:05,430 --> 01:21:03,679
stripping away all of your rights

1910
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:05,440
right in front of your eyes and calling

1911
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:06,880
it safety that's

1912
01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:08,320
that's can't be a conspiracy you can't

1913
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:10,400
be allowed to talk about that well and

1914
01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:13,600
just like the crackdown on so many forms

1915
01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:16,480
of media right now for whatever reason

1916
01:21:21,910 --> 01:21:19,520
uh and let's just flag this video a few

1917
01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:21,920
more times right flag the show yeah i

1918
01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:23,199
feel bad because

1919
01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:24,480
you know i don't want to be part of your

1920
01:21:27,590 --> 01:21:25,920
problem here but

1921
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:27,600
which is going to happen

1922
01:21:32,470 --> 01:21:29,040
yeah i'll get that email tomorrow don't

1923
01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:32,480
worry about it richard um is is

1924
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,880
once this starts happening to the ufo

1925
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:36,960
community

1926
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:40,000
then you effectively stifle

1927
01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:43,520
uh the conversation about ufos and and

1928
01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:46,239
et and contact and disclosure

1929
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:48,239
uh pretty effectively because if you if

1930
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:49,920
you start taking away social media and

1931
01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:52,560
our ability to communicate

1932
01:21:55,030 --> 01:21:54,080
i mean that's that's what they're trying

1933
01:21:59,189 --> 01:21:55,040
to do

1934
01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:59,199
yeah and take us back to the 1980s 1970s

1935
01:22:03,910 --> 01:22:01,520
like the ufo version of watching the tv

1936
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:03,920
show what was that big full house

1937
01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:06,560
you know the height of insipid

1938
01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:08,320
pre-internet tv

1939
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:11,440
with the blow-dried hair before i mean

1940
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:13,360
what an awful show let's just was that

1941
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:16,719
was that the one with dick van patten

1942
01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:17,600
uh

1943
01:22:21,350 --> 01:22:19,520
was he the patriot

1944
01:22:23,110 --> 01:22:21,360
was he threw up too many times who's the

1945
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:23,120
patriarch of the family was that i'm

1946
01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:24,800
trying to think was that full house i'm

1947
01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:30,310
but but

1948
01:22:35,669 --> 01:22:33,840
but i i i went over to jigsaw and uh

1949
01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:35,679
yeah let's just flag this video one more

1950
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:38,080
time so i wonder what

1951
01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:40,400
yeah yeah i went over and uh pretty

1952
01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:43,600
interesting uh a safer internet means a

1953
01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:47,120
safer world uh upholding technology as a

1954
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:49,360
force for good

1955
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:50,560
controlling

1956
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:51,520
af

1957
01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:54,880
yeah yeah yeah completely uh uh

1958
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:57,199
disinformation as disinformation

1959
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:59,280
campaigns become more sophisticated

1960
01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:01,360
we're building a new technology to

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strengthen our collective defenses

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learn more

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um censorship most of the world's

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01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:10,000
experiences

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01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:12,480
uh some form of online censorship we're

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building and scaling tools to enable

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01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:16,800
people to participate

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in the open

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internet yeah

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01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:21,920
they twist they take that and turn it

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01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:24,639
around they pivot on the word censorship

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01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:25,920
they're great

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01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:28,320
they're really smart yeah yeah it's it's

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01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:30,480
really well done um

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01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:32,800
you remember in uh starship troopers

1976
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:35,280
they used to run in the movie

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01:23:37,990 --> 01:23:36,960
they ran these commercials for the

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01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:38,000
internet

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01:23:41,669 --> 01:23:39,679
and uh

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01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:41,679
want to know more internet thing yeah i

1981
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:43,120
think i should invest in it you know

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01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:44,560
you're telling me about this it's gonna

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01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:46,800
be big i'm telling you this internet

1984
01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:48,880
this internet thing i know it sounds

1985
01:23:52,870 --> 01:23:50,400
crazy second time today i've heard about

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01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:52,880
it yeah yeah well listen richard i know

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01:23:56,870 --> 01:23:55,040
just the idea of it

1988
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:56,880
seems impossible

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01:24:01,590 --> 01:23:58,400
but

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it's going to connect the world and

1991
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:03,280
you'll be able to talk to somebody in

1992
01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:05,920
like zimbabwe

1993
01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:07,040
you know i feel but i think we're

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01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:08,480
pissing off half the listeners like come

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01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:10,480
on you guys talk about the serious stuff

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01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:13,520
man let's get to reptilians

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01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:14,560
um

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01:24:18,550 --> 01:24:16,800
but in starship troopers they did

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01:24:21,910 --> 01:24:18,560
exactly what

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01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:21,920
this jigsaw website is doing right

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01:24:28,149 --> 01:24:25,760
yeah the insects are attacking our world

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01:24:31,830 --> 01:24:28,159
and killing humans

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01:24:32,709 --> 01:24:31,840
from earth want to know more click here

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right

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that's what this is

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01:24:38,229 --> 01:24:35,760
this is uh

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01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:38,239
this is too funny toxicity this is smart

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01:24:43,830 --> 01:24:40,320
toxic they know how to put their message

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01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:43,840
out toxic language online silences

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01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:45,920
important voices

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01:24:51,750 --> 01:24:49,440
want to learn more click here yeah we'll

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01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:51,760
silence the bad voices so you you won't

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01:25:01,270 --> 01:24:52,560
be

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01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:01,280
patten was the dad and eight is enough

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01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:03,280
it wasn't full house

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01:25:07,350 --> 01:25:05,360
some olden days man you gotta love that

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01:25:09,590 --> 01:25:07,360
you gotta love the fader nuts man

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01:25:11,669 --> 01:25:09,600
um but this is what this is happening to

2019
01:25:12,790 --> 01:25:11,679
our internet it's it's gonna become like

2020
01:25:15,030 --> 01:25:12,800
like that

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01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:15,040
i think honestly it'll be another

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01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:17,040
version of incipity maybe maybe not

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01:25:21,669 --> 01:25:19,840
quite as bad as the 80s okay but

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01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:21,679
they definitely going to dial it back

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01:25:26,550 --> 01:25:24,639
dial the freedom back too much freedom

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01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:26,560
and too much you know

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01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:28,960
it's so funny because

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01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:30,400
if we

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01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:32,719
take a really close look

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01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:35,280
at who created the internet

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01:25:38,830 --> 01:25:37,600
was a bunch of

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01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:38,840
punk

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01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:43,440
rock purple haired freedom thinkers

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01:25:47,669 --> 01:25:45,120
yeah well after they inherited it from

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01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:47,679
darpa but yeah but but yeah but but the

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01:25:52,550 --> 01:25:49,360
idea right

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01:25:54,310 --> 01:25:52,560
was this sharing of of knowledge and

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01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:54,320
cultures from around the world and we're

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01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:56,400
going to put all of this

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01:26:01,270 --> 01:25:58,800
totally amazing that that

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01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:01,280
and and all of those

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01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:03,199
that were there in the beginning they

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01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:05,520
now own islands in fiji

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01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:07,440
right they're disconnected

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01:26:12,149 --> 01:26:09,920
they don't they've grown up they they

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01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:12,159
just let this thing run amok

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01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:14,719
you know it's not about 20 25 years

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01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:17,360
let's say through the 90s

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01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:21,199
until 2010 2011 2012 it was still it

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01:26:25,030 --> 01:26:23,600
felt free

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01:26:26,470 --> 01:26:25,040
you know so for a little more than 20

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01:26:28,709 --> 01:26:26,480
years the internet was i mean it was

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01:26:30,550 --> 01:26:28,719
unbelievable it's still unbelievable

2054
01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:30,560
frankly i mean everyone uses it for

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01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:32,480
everything every minute of every day

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01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:33,920
practically

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01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:36,239
so it's this all-encompassing

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01:26:40,629 --> 01:26:38,800
environment that we're totally dependent

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01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:40,639
on and it's the dependency of course

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01:26:45,189 --> 01:26:43,440
it's that they they've got us now

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01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:45,199
you know it's it's an embedded in every

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01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:46,800
aspect of our lives it's not just about

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01:26:50,310 --> 01:26:48,480
information it's about

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01:26:51,830 --> 01:26:50,320
maintaining the entire infrastructure of

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01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:51,840
our society

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01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:54,400
and we cannot we literally cannot live

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01:26:59,189 --> 01:26:56,880
without it we can't it's it's our it's

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01:27:01,910 --> 01:26:59,199
our electricity our water systems our

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01:27:06,629 --> 01:27:01,920
traffic lights uh the shipping

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01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:06,639
the the trucking industry uh airlines uh

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01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:07,440
uh

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01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:08,560
every

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01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:14,880
think of your power plants your water

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01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:17,520
conditioning plants uh

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01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:21,280
the geolocation of schools of fish in

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01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:23,760
the middle of the ocean right all of

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01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:24,880
this

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01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:27,040
every aspect of our lives

2079
01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:29,040
is now connected

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01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:30,480
right

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01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:33,120
but if if you will permit me i want to i

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01:27:38,950 --> 01:27:36,560
want to go back to why this all

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01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:38,960
is perceived by by the masters of our

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01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:39,920
world

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01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:42,159
that it they need to create a revolution

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01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:43,679
to

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01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:46,880
essentially create a global police state

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01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:48,560
there's never been an opportunity ever

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01:27:52,629 --> 01:27:51,199
before in all of history

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01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:52,639
for

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01:27:57,510 --> 01:27:55,920
rulers of societies to have the kind of

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01:27:58,870 --> 01:27:57,520
information that is available now to the

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01:28:01,270 --> 01:27:58,880
people who are

2094
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:01,280
have this information so

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01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:04,159
all of our metadata all of like anyone

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01:28:08,470 --> 01:28:06,480
can be a minority reported essentially

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01:28:11,189 --> 01:28:08,480
you know behavioral

2098
01:28:13,270 --> 01:28:11,199
predictive modeling on anyone

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01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:13,280
a book can be written about you or about

2100
01:28:18,149 --> 01:28:15,679
me or anyone listening right now

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01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:18,159
easily in which

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01:28:22,149 --> 01:28:19,840
your behaviors are

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01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:22,159
more predicted

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01:28:26,629 --> 01:28:24,239
i use uh ways the traffic thing you know

2105
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:26,639
for getting through traffic waze now

2106
01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:28,960
knows like my habits of driving and it

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01:28:32,709 --> 01:28:30,560
will tell me where i want to go before i

2108
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:32,719
even plug it in

2109
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:34,880
like i never told you that

2110
01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:37,520
so they they know our world they know

2111
01:28:40,229 --> 01:28:39,120
our lives they know our psychology in a

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01:28:42,790 --> 01:28:40,239
lot of ways

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01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:42,800
and better than we do and and that's not

2114
01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:44,719
even including

2115
01:28:48,790 --> 01:28:46,960
the coming generation of

2116
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:48,800
artificially intelligent algorithms that

2117
01:28:54,149 --> 01:28:52,800
are going to be smart like really smart

2118
01:28:56,229 --> 01:28:54,159
um

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01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:56,239
so the problem is there's just too many

2120
01:28:59,510 --> 01:28:58,000
algorithms for

2121
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:59,520
the jobs and and there's not gonna be

2122
01:29:03,430 --> 01:29:01,040
enough people to fill those jobs it's

2123
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:03,440
just gonna have a society of

2124
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:05,520
of people sitting around

2125
01:29:09,430 --> 01:29:07,920
and and that's gonna be a problem that's

2126
01:29:11,990 --> 01:29:09,440
a problem for any

2127
01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:12,000
ruling elite

2128
01:29:15,910 --> 01:29:13,760
you can't have everyone sweep the floors

2129
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:15,920
or what what are their

2130
01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:18,400
it's now in the past

2131
01:29:22,229 --> 01:29:20,320
there were always the doom and gloomers

2132
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:22,239
the luddites who are afraid that the

2133
01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:23,440
machines are going to take all the jobs

2134
01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:25,520
away and it didn't happen did not happen

2135
01:29:29,750 --> 01:29:28,000
in the past that is true

2136
01:29:31,669 --> 01:29:29,760
but i know there's a lot of smart

2137
01:29:33,350 --> 01:29:31,679
economists and people looking at things

2138
01:29:35,430 --> 01:29:33,360
today and they don't agree with that any

2139
01:29:37,189 --> 01:29:35,440
longer there's a very large contingent

2140
01:29:39,669 --> 01:29:37,199
of people who believe that we're going

2141
01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:39,679
to be putting ourselves out of jobs and

2142
01:29:43,189 --> 01:29:41,600
i think this is true

2143
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:43,199
uh truckers that's going to be on the

2144
01:29:46,550 --> 01:29:44,719
way all those poor canadian truckers

2145
01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:46,560
that was their last hurrah

2146
01:29:50,950 --> 01:29:48,800
trying to regain a last gasp of freedom

2147
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:50,960
for their great nation their once great

2148
01:29:55,350 --> 01:29:53,199
nation uh they're gonna be out of a job

2149
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:55,360
in five ten years a lot of them

2150
01:29:58,709 --> 01:29:56,960
google's gonna take their jobs away or

2151
01:30:00,629 --> 01:29:58,719
at least many of them

2152
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:00,639
and and so it will go and not just for

2153
01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:03,040
physical labor but intellectual labor

2154
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:04,400
increasingly

2155
01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:06,960
you know i'm a big chess fan and uh

2156
01:30:10,629 --> 01:30:08,320
i've talked about this from time to time

2157
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:10,639
on my on my site but uh there's a chess

2158
01:30:14,629 --> 01:30:12,560
program called alpha zero it's a

2159
01:30:17,110 --> 01:30:14,639
learning program no one no chess

2160
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:17,120
grandmasters programmed it alpha zero

2161
01:30:20,950 --> 01:30:19,199
just learned chess just like

2162
01:30:23,910 --> 01:30:20,960
this is a google thing too and they had

2163
01:30:25,669 --> 01:30:23,920
there was alphago i think yeah alphago

2164
01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:25,679
yeah yep

2165
01:30:30,229 --> 01:30:27,440
they both did the same thing they both

2166
01:30:33,590 --> 01:30:30,239
completely mopped the fl within hours

2167
01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:33,600
within hours of learning alpha zero was

2168
01:30:38,149 --> 01:30:35,920
sicked against the uh greatest chess

2169
01:30:40,070 --> 01:30:38,159
engine in the world called stockfish

2170
01:30:41,750 --> 01:30:40,080
which is better than magnus carlsen the

2171
01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:41,760
world chess champion

2172
01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:44,560
and alpha zero just clobbered it

2173
01:30:48,229 --> 01:30:46,000
clobbered it

2174
01:30:50,310 --> 01:30:48,239
magnus just got beat by a 16 year old

2175
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:50,320
kid from india did you see that i heard

2176
01:30:53,750 --> 01:30:51,360
about that

2177
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:53,760
he's 16 years old man

2178
01:30:58,390 --> 01:30:56,560
you know well in alpha alpha zero the

2179
01:31:00,709 --> 01:30:58,400
alpha program

2180
01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:00,719
all you have to do this is all they do

2181
01:31:06,950 --> 01:31:04,239
they just give it the rules

2182
01:31:08,470 --> 01:31:06,960
exactly and it just learns it learns

2183
01:31:09,590 --> 01:31:08,480
from there

2184
01:31:12,070 --> 01:31:09,600
fast

2185
01:31:14,470 --> 01:31:12,080
so now um one thing that i'm i'm kind of

2186
01:31:16,310 --> 01:31:14,480
into uh speculating about there's a real

2187
01:31:18,390 --> 01:31:16,320
program out there it's called the

2188
01:31:20,550 --> 01:31:18,400
sentient world

2189
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:20,560
simulation

2190
01:31:24,390 --> 01:31:22,560
i learned about this there's a channel

2191
01:31:25,830 --> 01:31:24,400
called truthstream media i totally i

2192
01:31:27,750 --> 01:31:25,840
love these guys so anyway they did a

2193
01:31:30,070 --> 01:31:27,760
documentary and they talked about this

2194
01:31:31,590 --> 01:31:30,080
sentient world simulation so what is it

2195
01:31:35,030 --> 01:31:31,600
it was first um

2196
01:31:37,189 --> 01:31:35,040
discussed in 2007 so about 15 years ago

2197
01:31:39,590 --> 01:31:37,199
it is this is a real thing so it's a

2198
01:31:41,189 --> 01:31:39,600
think of it as a digital simulation of

2199
01:31:43,110 --> 01:31:41,199
the entire world

2200
01:31:45,350 --> 01:31:43,120
so for military purposes it's quite

2201
01:31:46,950 --> 01:31:45,360
useful if you're a military and you want

2202
01:31:49,510 --> 01:31:46,960
to invade another country you run your

2203
01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:49,520
simulation like okay if we do this

2204
01:31:54,550 --> 01:31:52,080
what's what are they likely to do

2205
01:31:56,070 --> 01:31:54,560
but not just militarily but economically

2206
01:32:00,709 --> 01:31:56,080
and

2207
01:32:01,830 --> 01:32:00,719
these factors in there so it's an

2208
01:32:05,669 --> 01:32:01,840
incredibly

2209
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:05,679
the algorithms are accurate and good

2210
01:32:08,870 --> 01:32:07,360
well i've had 15 years to tweak it so

2211
01:32:10,070 --> 01:32:08,880
i'm sure they're pretty good

2212
01:32:11,830 --> 01:32:10,080
but i think of something like the

2213
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:11,840
sentient world simulation being used for

2214
01:32:17,189 --> 01:32:14,000
a lot more than just military dominance

2215
01:32:18,229 --> 01:32:17,199
we're in a world of hybrid warfare

2216
01:32:21,510 --> 01:32:18,239
which is

2217
01:32:24,149 --> 01:32:21,520
control over social media control over

2218
01:32:26,709 --> 01:32:24,159
all sorts of in forms of information

2219
01:32:28,550 --> 01:32:26,719
and i i can easily see a sentient world

2220
01:32:30,149 --> 01:32:28,560
simulation being used

2221
01:32:31,669 --> 01:32:30,159
you know you can progr you give the

2222
01:32:33,430 --> 01:32:31,679
rules of chess well there's rules of

2223
01:32:35,590 --> 01:32:33,440
social control as well

2224
01:32:37,270 --> 01:32:35,600
maybe they're not as hard and fast as

2225
01:32:39,430 --> 01:32:37,280
rules of chess but there are definite

2226
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:39,440
guidelines there are strategies there's

2227
01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:40,480
tactics

2228
01:32:44,390 --> 01:32:42,400
you give that to a

2229
01:32:46,070 --> 01:32:44,400
highly artificially intelligent

2230
01:32:47,910 --> 01:32:46,080
algorithm

2231
01:32:49,270 --> 01:32:47,920
and say

2232
01:32:53,430 --> 01:32:49,280
if we

2233
01:32:55,590 --> 01:32:53,440
vaccine

2234
01:32:57,590 --> 01:32:55,600
mandates or passports or whatever what's

2235
01:32:59,669 --> 01:32:57,600
the likely reaction going to be what's

2236
01:33:01,350 --> 01:32:59,679
the best way that we can do this with

2237
01:33:03,189 --> 01:33:01,360
this little pushback and who will be the

2238
01:33:05,350 --> 01:33:03,199
people we need to worry about who are

2239
01:33:06,870 --> 01:33:05,360
going to be like all of that

2240
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all of that information is already

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01:33:10,390 --> 01:33:08,800
probably available right now

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01:33:12,790 --> 01:33:10,400
i i just

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01:33:14,709 --> 01:33:12,800
flag next to your name or my name

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01:33:18,149 --> 01:33:14,719
i just uh i just looked it up i got to

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01:33:20,149 --> 01:33:18,159
take a break let's get our break in um

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01:33:22,470 --> 01:33:20,159
you ready for this uh

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01:33:23,910 --> 01:33:22,480
synthetic world environments uh

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01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:23,920
currently being used by homeland

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01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:25,440
security in the united states defense

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department to simulate crisis on the u.s

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homeland there you go

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we'll be right back after this short

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[Music]

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01:37:17,669 --> 01:37:14,709
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01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:08,470
welcome back fade to black i am your

2331
01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:10,960
host jimmy church tonight richard bleep

2332
01:38:15,350 --> 01:38:13,600
and dolan he's right here tomorrow night

2333
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:15,360
is thursday night it's fader night open

2334
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:17,119
lines all night long

2335
01:38:21,590 --> 01:38:18,400
and uh

2336
01:38:22,709 --> 01:38:21,600
richard i was just over uh in uh the

2337
01:38:25,510 --> 01:38:22,719
chat room

2338
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:25,520
and uh there's a character over there

2339
01:38:31,669 --> 01:38:28,480
making it rain like making it rain right

2340
01:38:34,629 --> 01:38:33,750
guess what uh

2341
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:34,639
the

2342
01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:39,280
is

2343
01:38:42,629 --> 01:38:40,239
what

2344
01:38:45,270 --> 01:38:42,639
dolan's bar

2345
01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:45,280
no kidding i love it it's a bar in

2346
01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:46,480
philly

2347
01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:48,400
called dolan's bar

2348
01:38:54,070 --> 01:38:51,760
oh wow yeah yeah yeah and uh my brother

2349
01:38:55,510 --> 01:38:54,080
yeah right

2350
01:38:57,910 --> 01:38:55,520
they were like come on church man you

2351
01:38:59,590 --> 01:38:57,920
gotta tell richard about dolan's bar so

2352
01:39:01,830 --> 01:38:59,600
one of these days

2353
01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:01,840
two ufo researchers are going to walk

2354
01:39:07,109 --> 01:39:05,040
into a dolan's bar

2355
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:07,119
oh it's that's going to happen really

2356
01:39:12,390 --> 01:39:09,920
yeah yeah it's in philly

2357
01:39:14,149 --> 01:39:12,400
hey i've already uh picked out all the

2358
01:39:15,430 --> 01:39:14,159
stuff for the menu and the drinks uh for

2359
01:39:17,109 --> 01:39:15,440
the two of us

2360
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:17,119
and and and trust me it's going to be a

2361
01:39:21,030 --> 01:39:18,719
good night it will make that happen we

2362
01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:21,040
will make that happen um

2363
01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:22,239
what uh

2364
01:39:25,750 --> 01:39:23,440
one of the

2365
01:39:27,990 --> 01:39:25,760
um interesting things that i'd like to

2366
01:39:29,109 --> 01:39:28,000
talk to you about is disclosure you know

2367
01:39:31,990 --> 01:39:29,119
of course you've written one of the

2368
01:39:34,550 --> 01:39:32,000
definitive books on the subjects but

2369
01:39:35,669 --> 01:39:34,560
but even when you and i sit down

2370
01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:35,679
privately

2371
01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:37,920
this is something that we talk about

2372
01:39:40,950 --> 01:39:39,440
and

2373
01:39:41,910 --> 01:39:40,960
what do you think

2374
01:39:43,750 --> 01:39:41,920
now

2375
01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:43,760
uh and i'm talking about just the

2376
01:39:50,310 --> 01:39:46,639
developments over the last three months

2377
01:39:55,350 --> 01:39:50,320
uh and now that the uh 2022

2378
01:39:57,990 --> 01:39:55,360
uh budget is officially now in action um

2379
01:39:59,030 --> 01:39:58,000
uh where we are sitting

2380
01:40:00,870 --> 01:39:59,040
is there

2381
01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:00,880
are are we actually going to talk about

2382
01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:05,760
after disclosure in in 2022

2383
01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:07,760
i would be very surprised i would not

2384
01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:10,000
expect that at all no i just don't think

2385
01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:12,239
so why not

2386
01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:16,470
i don't think we're in an era of

2387
01:40:20,390 --> 01:40:18,239
government openness i think we're in the

2388
01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:20,400
opposite era

2389
01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:23,440
i think that

2390
01:40:32,229 --> 01:40:28,070
the

2391
01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:32,239
government has made at least a

2392
01:40:37,430 --> 01:40:34,960
perfunctory acknowledgment of uap at

2393
01:40:40,149 --> 01:40:37,440
least in creating these task force and

2394
01:40:43,109 --> 01:40:41,590
that that doesn't

2395
01:40:44,629 --> 01:40:43,119
you know right now i've seen no evidence

2396
01:40:46,470 --> 01:40:44,639
that this is other than just shifting

2397
01:40:48,149 --> 01:40:46,480
the goal posts of

2398
01:40:49,750 --> 01:40:48,159
the conversation just a little bit you

2399
01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:49,760
know five years ago we were at a point

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01:40:52,629 --> 01:40:50,960
where

2401
01:40:55,189 --> 01:40:52,639
there was no acknowledgement that there

2402
01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:55,199
were even unusual things that

2403
01:40:59,350 --> 01:40:57,840
were not explainable so we got past that

2404
01:41:01,350 --> 01:40:59,360
that was a hurdle

2405
01:41:02,790 --> 01:41:01,360
but now we're we're in this new era

2406
01:41:05,270 --> 01:41:02,800
where

2407
01:41:07,669 --> 01:41:05,280
we're in this enforced infantilization

2408
01:41:09,109 --> 01:41:07,679
of the ufo subject which is this well

2409
01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:09,119
there's something out there is it the

2410
01:41:13,590 --> 01:41:11,199
russians is it the chinese

2411
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:13,600
we don't really know what they are

2412
01:41:16,470 --> 01:41:15,280
uh that's not believable it's not

2413
01:41:18,629 --> 01:41:16,480
credible but

2414
01:41:20,550 --> 01:41:18,639
it seems to i don't see a way that the

2415
01:41:22,550 --> 01:41:20,560
united states government can ever put

2416
01:41:24,310 --> 01:41:22,560
itself in a position where it is going

2417
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:24,320
to have to acknowledge

2418
01:41:29,669 --> 01:41:28,000
that this is a genuine phenomenon that's

2419
01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:29,679
that's absolutely

2420
01:41:36,070 --> 01:41:33,199
real and not theirs because

2421
01:41:38,229 --> 01:41:36,080
if you do that you're going to start

2422
01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:38,239
getting very very close to

2423
01:41:42,310 --> 01:41:40,960
too much explaining to the public

2424
01:41:44,790 --> 01:41:42,320
because the whole thing about ufo

2425
01:41:47,270 --> 01:41:44,800
secrecy is that it has

2426
01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:47,280
it has corrupted our entire society and

2427
01:41:50,629 --> 01:41:49,040
our establishment and is gone for so

2428
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:50,639
long

2429
01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:51,760
that

2430
01:41:58,390 --> 01:41:54,880
there's just too much explaining to do

2431
01:42:01,270 --> 01:41:59,910
you know i just i this is a weird

2432
01:42:02,709 --> 01:42:01,280
position

2433
01:42:04,629 --> 01:42:02,719
we're able to say there's something out

2434
01:42:05,590 --> 01:42:04,639
there and we don't know what it is

2435
01:42:06,790 --> 01:42:05,600
but

2436
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:06,800
there are

2437
01:42:10,229 --> 01:42:07,840
and there's going to be a few other

2438
01:42:13,030 --> 01:42:10,239
fallback positions like they might this

2439
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:13,040
year say well well we've studied some

2440
01:42:16,790 --> 01:42:15,040
unusual artifacts but we have no

2441
01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:16,800
conclusions

2442
01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:18,239
but then even if they do that they're

2443
01:42:21,750 --> 01:42:20,080
going to be pressured or they may be

2444
01:42:24,310 --> 01:42:21,760
pressured into saying well what are the

2445
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:24,320
artifacts let the rest of us look at it

2446
01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:26,960
and if and if you do that

2447
01:42:30,629 --> 01:42:28,719
now you're in danger of losing real

2448
01:42:32,629 --> 01:42:30,639
control over the narrative

2449
01:42:35,350 --> 01:42:32,639
and at some point

2450
01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:35,360
even in our ultra-controlled

2451
01:42:39,270 --> 01:42:37,280
media establishment someone might be

2452
01:42:40,870 --> 01:42:39,280
saying well wait a minute

2453
01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:40,880
have you really just been lying to us

2454
01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:42,800
for 80 years now because that's what it

2455
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:44,320
looks like

2456
01:42:50,070 --> 01:42:46,560
and and there are a couple of voices

2457
01:42:51,510 --> 01:42:50,080
even in the establishment media

2458
01:42:52,870 --> 01:42:51,520
really one

2459
01:42:55,030 --> 01:42:52,880
if you want to look over at tucker

2460
01:42:57,350 --> 01:42:55,040
carlson it's been the only establishment

2461
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:57,360
like big establishment media guy who has

2462
01:43:02,070 --> 01:42:59,520
actually occasionally been

2463
01:43:04,070 --> 01:43:02,080
pretty good on ufos

2464
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:04,080
and um

2465
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:05,920
you know the questions could come out

2466
01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:07,520
and and they're uncomfortable questions

2467
01:43:11,350 --> 01:43:09,360
because they imply

2468
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:11,360
long-standing government deception and

2469
01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:15,040
lies on a subject that

2470
01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:16,960
i just don't think is a is a positive

2471
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:18,880
for the u.s government to let out

2472
01:43:22,790 --> 01:43:20,560
because this is

2473
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:22,800
this isn't just some

2474
01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:25,600
ordinary subject this is

2475
01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:28,639
this is a monumental subject

2476
01:43:31,910 --> 01:43:30,239
it's easy for us to forget it like you

2477
01:43:33,430 --> 01:43:31,920
know those of us we study ufos we think

2478
01:43:35,510 --> 01:43:33,440
oh yeah

2479
01:43:38,950 --> 01:43:35,520
but honestly

2480
01:43:40,870 --> 01:43:38,960
the unveiling the ufo secret is not like

2481
01:43:43,270 --> 01:43:40,880
admitting any other kind of

2482
01:43:44,229 --> 01:43:43,280
long-standing criminality i mean maybe

2483
01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:44,239
it's up there with a kennedy

2484
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:46,239
assassination or a 911. let's not forget

2485
01:43:51,669 --> 01:43:49,600
about that or yeah covet shenanigans i

2486
01:43:53,430 --> 01:43:51,679
don't want to get you in trouble but

2487
01:43:55,189 --> 01:43:53,440
those are the big four those three plus

2488
01:43:57,430 --> 01:43:55,199
ufos

2489
01:44:02,390 --> 01:43:57,440
there's probably a few others

2490
01:44:04,229 --> 01:44:02,400
but the ufos are big big big and

2491
01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:04,239
you know at some point like one question

2492
01:44:07,270 --> 01:44:05,760
is going to start leading

2493
01:44:09,350 --> 01:44:07,280
to other questions it's like well how

2494
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:09,360
long have you known about this have you

2495
01:44:12,070 --> 01:44:10,800
known about well yeah we've known about

2496
01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:12,080
this a long time but we try to avoid

2497
01:44:16,149 --> 01:44:13,840
panic yeah that's it

2498
01:44:17,750 --> 01:44:16,159
we try to avoid panic like that i i'm

2499
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:17,760
sure that there's all of these fall back

2500
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:18,960
positions

2501
01:44:22,870 --> 01:44:21,040
but we're going to have to fight for

2502
01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:22,880
every one of those fallback positions

2503
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:24,239
that none of them are going to be handed

2504
01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:25,600
over

2505
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:26,880
i don't think any of them are easily

2506
01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:28,400
going to be handed over

2507
01:44:31,270 --> 01:44:30,080
or like oh yeah we've secretly tried

2508
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:31,280
studying this for years but we haven't

2509
01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:33,199
made much progress or well we've

2510
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:35,280
recovered craft or bodies but no no

2511
01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:37,199
progress that's going to be a tough one

2512
01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:38,880
do you think that's

2513
01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:40,880
a lie well do you think that gillibrand

2514
01:44:46,550 --> 01:44:44,159
and uh i'll i'll throw marco rubio and

2515
01:44:49,189 --> 01:44:46,560
others that rubio yeah

2516
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:49,199
well both of them both of them are jokes

2517
01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:50,880
posing as human beings i'm sorry but

2518
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:52,719
yeah keep going but uh well that's why i

2519
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:54,960
don't discuss politics on this show but

2520
01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:57,119
i will well democrat or republicans

2521
01:45:01,109 --> 01:44:58,719
equal opportunity yeah

2522
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:01,119
equal opportunity is is this

2523
01:45:04,629 --> 01:45:03,679
that uh

2524
01:45:08,070 --> 01:45:04,639
they

2525
01:45:11,030 --> 01:45:08,080
by putting uh her legislation in the

2526
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:11,040
budget it is now in there it's it hasn't

2527
01:45:16,149 --> 01:45:13,360
been altered it's it's actually in there

2528
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:16,159
yeah no no that's absolutely well do you

2529
01:45:19,830 --> 01:45:18,080
know that wasn't gillibrand gillibrand

2530
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:19,840
she didn't do that obviously

2531
01:45:22,709 --> 01:45:21,360
there were you've got the behind the

2532
01:45:25,669 --> 01:45:22,719
scenes

2533
01:45:27,910 --> 01:45:25,679
the old ttsa network yep still doing

2534
01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:27,920
their thing that's right they got that

2535
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:30,400
in there undoubtedly i'm giving some

2536
01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:31,920
plausible deniability here but

2537
01:45:36,149 --> 01:45:34,000
undoubtedly do you think that was there

2538
01:45:38,550 --> 01:45:36,159
maybe you know it was uh it was chris

2539
01:45:40,790 --> 01:45:38,560
mellon and yeah

2540
01:45:42,629 --> 01:45:40,800
and others i have no problem i knew that

2541
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:42,639
i didn't i didn't know if he wanted that

2542
01:45:46,950 --> 01:45:44,639
known or not but

2543
01:45:49,270 --> 01:45:46,960
but but here's but here's obvious but

2544
01:45:53,750 --> 01:45:49,280
here's the point with that though

2545
01:45:56,390 --> 01:45:53,760
is gillibrand um and others trying to do

2546
01:45:57,510 --> 01:45:56,400
what you are suggesting here that

2547
01:45:59,430 --> 01:45:57,520
is

2548
01:46:02,149 --> 01:45:59,440
venturing into

2549
01:46:05,430 --> 01:46:02,159
uh an uncomfortable position

2550
01:46:08,790 --> 01:46:05,440
of of having to answer questions but but

2551
01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:08,800
now there are people in in in washington

2552
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:10,800
dc that do want the answers to these

2553
01:46:14,950 --> 01:46:12,960
questions

2554
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:14,960
well actually this is good you brought

2555
01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:16,480
this up because

2556
01:46:22,149 --> 01:46:20,159
this issue is potentially

2557
01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:22,159
this could potentially be the big ufo

2558
01:46:24,229 --> 01:46:23,440
issue of the year

2559
01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:24,239
right

2560
01:46:28,470 --> 01:46:26,560
is how because what what the gillibrand

2561
01:46:29,750 --> 01:46:28,480
amendment

2562
01:46:33,109 --> 01:46:29,760
is

2563
01:46:35,189 --> 01:46:33,119
i mean on paper

2564
01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:35,199
everything's on paper so on paper it's

2565
01:46:38,149 --> 01:46:36,400
awesome

2566
01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:38,159
it's actually

2567
01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:41,119
this is a ufo investigative office

2568
01:46:44,070 --> 01:46:42,560
frankly that

2569
01:46:45,669 --> 01:46:44,080
by the way this is word it should have

2570
01:46:48,790 --> 01:46:45,679
decent funding

2571
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:48,800
and an actual staff to do investigations

2572
01:46:52,830 --> 01:46:50,080
of not just

2573
01:46:55,910 --> 01:46:52,840
reports that the u.s military by the

2574
01:46:57,270 --> 01:46:55,920
way considers to be

2575
01:47:00,310 --> 01:46:57,280
valid but

2576
01:47:04,229 --> 01:47:00,320
beyond even military airspace

2577
01:47:07,109 --> 01:47:04,239
so this is to be like a genuine

2578
01:47:08,709 --> 01:47:07,119
ufo uap

2579
01:47:11,830 --> 01:47:08,719
not just reporting center but

2580
01:47:14,149 --> 01:47:11,840
investigative analytical center

2581
01:47:17,109 --> 01:47:14,159
and that's that's how it is intended so

2582
01:47:18,790 --> 01:47:17,119
that is actually quite significant like

2583
01:47:21,350 --> 01:47:18,800
i'm not going to take anything away from

2584
01:47:23,189 --> 01:47:21,360
it the question is

2585
01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:23,199
will this actually happen

2586
01:47:27,189 --> 01:47:25,199
there are definite enemies against that

2587
01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:27,199
amendment within the pentagon and the

2588
01:47:30,390 --> 01:47:29,040
intelligence community so the real

2589
01:47:32,550 --> 01:47:30,400
question is going to be

2590
01:47:34,070 --> 01:47:32,560
how successful will the enemies be at

2591
01:47:35,910 --> 01:47:34,080
essentially kneecapping it and just

2592
01:47:38,310 --> 01:47:35,920
knocking it out of commission before it

2593
01:47:41,189 --> 01:47:38,320
has a chance to do anything or better

2594
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:41,199
yet put one of their own in charge of it

2595
01:47:46,709 --> 01:47:44,080
and it will just you know bleed it dry

2596
01:47:49,030 --> 01:47:46,719
that's my that's my best prediction for

2597
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:49,040
their strategy they'll just put a really

2598
01:47:53,030 --> 01:47:51,040
awful person in charge of it won't won't

2599
01:47:54,550 --> 01:47:53,040
do it well and then two years go by and

2600
01:47:56,390 --> 01:47:54,560
they're like ah this didn't really work

2601
01:47:59,590 --> 01:47:56,400
out very well let's roll it back into

2602
01:48:03,189 --> 01:47:59,600
the navy uh uap task force or whatever

2603
01:48:05,750 --> 01:48:03,199
would do do we need a ufo czar

2604
01:48:12,229 --> 01:48:05,760
you know

2605
01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:14,950
i'm being serious yes i'm being serious

2606
01:48:19,350 --> 01:48:16,560
yes i would i would i mean if it were

2607
01:48:20,870 --> 01:48:19,360
offered to me i would i would do it yeah

2608
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:20,880
sure i would

2609
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:22,480
there i mean

2610
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:24,080
on the condition that i'd be allowed to

2611
01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:25,920
go public with all the bs that i have to

2612
01:48:30,229 --> 01:48:27,600
deal with and all the obstruction that

2613
01:48:32,390 --> 01:48:30,239
i'm getting right because i mean i'm not

2614
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:32,400
going to go on to be a team player for

2615
01:48:36,790 --> 01:48:34,560
team pentagon and just say oh yeah yeah

2616
01:48:38,870 --> 01:48:36,800
whatever you want no if if

2617
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:38,880
i were allowed

2618
01:48:43,189 --> 01:48:40,880
actually to do

2619
01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:43,199
what i thought best

2620
01:48:46,629 --> 01:48:44,800
and that is and what i think best by the

2621
01:48:48,310 --> 01:48:46,639
way in case anyone's wondering is

2622
01:48:50,790 --> 01:48:48,320
openness

2623
01:48:52,149 --> 01:48:50,800
on the matter of this phenomenon right

2624
01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:52,159
total open

2625
01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:53,760
then yes

2626
01:48:57,270 --> 01:48:55,360
yeah i would do it but

2627
01:48:58,950 --> 01:48:57,280
yeah that's not going to happen well the

2628
01:49:04,310 --> 01:48:58,960
the comment

2629
01:49:07,669 --> 01:49:04,320
in in rubio's press release

2630
01:49:09,669 --> 01:49:07,679
was uh an eye-opener for me which is why

2631
01:49:12,470 --> 01:49:09,679
somebody like you

2632
01:49:14,550 --> 01:49:12,480
has to be in there for to be a ufo czar

2633
01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:14,560
because he said you know for the first

2634
01:49:18,709 --> 01:49:16,719
time we're getting all of the

2635
01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:18,719
intelligence agencies

2636
01:49:23,669 --> 01:49:21,199
and all of the branches of the military

2637
01:49:25,350 --> 01:49:23,679
to cooperate for the first time this has

2638
01:49:28,709 --> 01:49:25,360
never happened before

2639
01:49:31,589 --> 01:49:28,719
and i'm thinking you honestly who

2640
01:49:34,470 --> 01:49:31,599
when when the air force says no or the

2641
01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:34,480
nsa says no or we don't have anything or

2642
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:36,880
they see it who is going to be there to

2643
01:49:40,149 --> 01:49:38,400
put the pressure on to make sure that

2644
01:49:42,550 --> 01:49:40,159
this information is shared because

2645
01:49:44,070 --> 01:49:42,560
that's what the amendment calls for

2646
01:49:45,990 --> 01:49:44,080
but there's got to be somebody in there

2647
01:49:48,390 --> 01:49:46,000
to call the shots to make sure that

2648
01:49:49,669 --> 01:49:48,400
everybody's playing

2649
01:49:52,070 --> 01:49:49,679
it's a good question to ask like how

2650
01:49:54,390 --> 01:49:52,080
much authority will the person who runs

2651
01:49:56,070 --> 01:49:54,400
that department actually have

2652
01:49:57,990 --> 01:49:56,080
to pressure say the air force melon

2653
01:49:59,270 --> 01:49:58,000
wrote uh chris mellon wrote a great

2654
01:50:00,790 --> 01:49:59,280
piece

2655
01:50:04,310 --> 01:50:00,800
a couple of months ago and why is the

2656
01:50:05,990 --> 01:50:04,320
air force uh awol you know a wall on the

2657
01:50:07,589 --> 01:50:06,000
matter of uap

2658
01:50:08,950 --> 01:50:07,599
he talked about

2659
01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:08,960
a

2660
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:21,760
would

2661
01:50:26,550 --> 01:50:24,800
presumably include information on uap

2662
01:50:28,149 --> 01:50:26,560
and yet the air force to his knowledge

2663
01:50:29,830 --> 01:50:28,159
when he's looking at the task force

2664
01:50:31,270 --> 01:50:29,840
report from last year he said i don't

2665
01:50:32,709 --> 01:50:31,280
think the air force contributed a single

2666
01:50:34,310 --> 01:50:32,719
one of those

2667
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:34,320
why not

2668
01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:36,400
they they have better sensory equipment

2669
01:50:41,350 --> 01:50:38,560
in many ways in the navy seems to have

2670
01:50:43,589 --> 01:50:41,360
they're not catching any ufos

2671
01:50:46,390 --> 01:50:43,599
which by the way the navy only came up

2672
01:50:49,510 --> 01:50:46,400
with a little over i think 144.

2673
01:50:50,830 --> 01:50:49,520
on my in my spare time

2674
01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:50,840
i could come up with

2675
01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:53,679
144 military cases of the last couple of

2676
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:55,679
years forget the last 20 years you could

2677
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:57,520
do that in 30 minutes

2678
01:51:03,830 --> 01:50:58,400
i

2679
01:51:05,750 --> 01:51:03,840
so they're not

2680
01:51:07,990 --> 01:51:05,760
so but anyway the air force so if

2681
01:51:09,990 --> 01:51:08,000
rubio's got all starry-eyed over the

2682
01:51:11,510 --> 01:51:10,000
cooperation of the services i would love

2683
01:51:12,870 --> 01:51:11,520
to see what the air force is

2684
01:51:15,510 --> 01:51:12,880
contributing

2685
01:51:17,350 --> 01:51:15,520
the uh there was a comment i wanted to

2686
01:51:19,510 --> 01:51:17,360
ask you about this because this touches

2687
01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:19,520
upon everything that we've uh talked

2688
01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:22,159
about tonight chris mellon pointed out

2689
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:24,080
in the article

2690
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:26,000
that there was

2691
01:51:58,629 --> 01:51:27,040
a

2692
01:52:01,430 --> 01:51:58,639
be done

2693
01:52:02,870 --> 01:52:01,440
and the air force just feels so

2694
01:52:05,430 --> 01:52:02,880
privileged

2695
01:52:07,350 --> 01:52:05,440
that they they they just they don't have

2696
01:52:09,430 --> 01:52:07,360
to play ball they don't have to they

2697
01:52:12,070 --> 01:52:09,440
don't want to and they're not going to

2698
01:52:14,790 --> 01:52:12,080
they haven't been and that's what we can

2699
01:52:17,669 --> 01:52:14,800
expect but this is an old story by the

2700
01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:17,679
way when i first started researching ufo

2701
01:52:22,470 --> 01:52:19,599
history you know all the material in the

2702
01:52:25,109 --> 01:52:22,480
1940s and 50s same thing air force and

2703
01:52:26,390 --> 01:52:25,119
the navy were always at odds

2704
01:52:27,910 --> 01:52:26,400
constantly

2705
01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:27,920
and the navy

2706
01:52:31,750 --> 01:52:29,679
you know the navy is an old proud

2707
01:52:33,189 --> 01:52:31,760
institution and the air force were these

2708
01:52:34,790 --> 01:52:33,199
new upstarts

2709
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:34,800
and the air force is essentially

2710
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:36,480
throwing its weight around with the ufo

2711
01:52:40,870 --> 01:52:38,000
issue back then

2712
01:52:42,629 --> 01:52:40,880
uh there would be navy ufo sightings

2713
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:42,639
you know quite many back in the 40s and

2714
01:52:46,629 --> 01:52:44,400
50s just like today

2715
01:52:49,109 --> 01:52:46,639
and i've read many several accounts i

2716
01:52:51,589 --> 01:52:49,119
should say of air force people

2717
01:52:53,990 --> 01:52:51,599
coming onto naval ships and

2718
01:52:55,910 --> 01:52:54,000
angering everyone of course these navy

2719
01:52:58,229 --> 01:52:55,920
guys like get the hell out of here but

2720
01:53:01,669 --> 01:52:58,239
these air force guys apparently at least

2721
01:53:03,350 --> 01:53:01,679
circa 1950 were authorized to

2722
01:53:05,109 --> 01:53:03,360
take the ufo data

2723
01:53:06,870 --> 01:53:05,119
which

2724
01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:06,880
briefly prompted the then secretary of

2725
01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:09,040
the navy a guy named dan kimball to try

2726
01:53:13,109 --> 01:53:11,360
to start the navy's own separate ufo

2727
01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:13,119
investigative

2728
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:14,080
um

2729
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:16,800
branch but it didn't go anywhere

2730
01:53:21,669 --> 01:53:19,040
i read all about donald keyhole's old

2731
01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:21,679
books but kehoe had a good insight into

2732
01:53:26,629 --> 01:53:23,520
all of that he was an ex-marine close to

2733
01:53:29,189 --> 01:53:26,639
the navy guys he had good information

2734
01:53:31,910 --> 01:53:29,199
so um anyways this is an old rivalry and

2735
01:53:34,629 --> 01:53:31,920
the air force has

2736
01:53:35,990 --> 01:53:34,639
never never really cooperated in fact in

2737
01:53:37,750 --> 01:53:36,000
my own personal experience i don't know

2738
01:53:40,149 --> 01:53:37,760
about other researchers

2739
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:40,159
um for years years and years and years

2740
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:41,840
i've i've had

2741
01:53:45,589 --> 01:53:43,599
fascinating conversations with navy

2742
01:53:47,589 --> 01:53:45,599
people about ufos

2743
01:53:50,950 --> 01:53:47,599
fascinating air force

2744
01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:50,960
spoken to a few they are tight-lipped

2745
01:53:53,589 --> 01:53:52,320
i think there's something in the culture

2746
01:53:56,310 --> 01:53:53,599
they they don't talk about it to

2747
01:53:57,669 --> 01:53:56,320
outsiders now some of the retired navy

2748
01:54:00,070 --> 01:53:57,679
guys they're a little different they

2749
01:54:02,629 --> 01:54:00,080
they will do you think that the efforts

2750
01:54:04,390 --> 01:54:02,639
of chris mellon liked the article that

2751
01:54:06,149 --> 01:54:04,400
he wrote two months ago about the air

2752
01:54:08,629 --> 01:54:06,159
force and then of course the most recent

2753
01:54:11,750 --> 01:54:08,639
one last week that came out in the hill

2754
01:54:14,470 --> 01:54:11,760
that uh obviously he's ruffling feathers

2755
01:54:15,669 --> 01:54:14,480
right and he's trying to stir the pot

2756
01:54:17,910 --> 01:54:15,679
there

2757
01:54:20,149 --> 01:54:17,920
in washington dc not only capitol hill

2758
01:54:23,109 --> 01:54:20,159
but you know the halls of the pentagon

2759
01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:23,119
um do you think that the efforts of of

2760
01:54:27,589 --> 01:54:24,800
melon and

2761
01:54:28,470 --> 01:54:27,599
and lou elizondo are enough or do we

2762
01:54:33,109 --> 01:54:28,480
need

2763
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:34,709
well i mean more is always going to be

2764
01:54:38,629 --> 01:54:36,800
better but the the people have to be

2765
01:54:41,910 --> 01:54:38,639
well positioned and and christopher

2766
01:54:47,750 --> 01:54:44,390
pretty well positioned um

2767
01:54:49,270 --> 01:54:47,760
he's not formally i don't think he's

2768
01:54:50,790 --> 01:54:49,280
you know operating at the highest he

2769
01:54:52,229 --> 01:54:50,800
doesn't have the ear of joe biden i

2770
01:54:55,270 --> 01:54:52,239
wouldn't think

2771
01:54:58,950 --> 01:54:57,589
that sounded funny even when i said it

2772
01:55:01,270 --> 01:54:58,960
i don't even know if joe biden has the

2773
01:55:02,870 --> 01:55:01,280
year of joe biden but anyway uh melon

2774
01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:02,880
doesn't

2775
01:55:07,270 --> 01:55:05,920
and but he he does have

2776
01:55:08,790 --> 01:55:07,280
he does have some influence i think

2777
01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:08,800
behind the scenes

2778
01:55:12,310 --> 01:55:11,040
clearly he does he got

2779
01:55:14,229 --> 01:55:12,320
clearly influenced the gillibrand

2780
01:55:15,189 --> 01:55:14,239
amendment but you know more would be

2781
01:55:16,149 --> 01:55:15,199
better

2782
01:55:19,109 --> 01:55:16,159
um

2783
01:55:21,430 --> 01:55:19,119
i'm guessing that there are allies

2784
01:55:24,709 --> 01:55:21,440
to ufo openness

2785
01:55:27,030 --> 01:55:24,719
within certain areas of government i

2786
01:55:29,109 --> 01:55:27,040
absolutely would guess that

2787
01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:29,119
um

2788
01:55:31,990 --> 01:55:30,239
you know i don't know how i don't know

2789
01:55:33,750 --> 01:55:32,000
the details of how that's that's working

2790
01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:33,760
out to be honest with you i'm not in i'm

2791
01:55:39,030 --> 01:55:35,920
not privy to that

2792
01:55:42,229 --> 01:55:39,040
i think what's really needed though is

2793
01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:42,239
a ground swell

2794
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:43,440
of

2795
01:55:50,070 --> 01:55:48,400
problem is part as the researchers even

2796
01:55:52,870 --> 01:55:50,080
people like me like i don't think

2797
01:55:55,270 --> 01:55:52,880
researchers are doing a good enough job

2798
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:55,280
to characterize the problem

2799
01:55:58,470 --> 01:55:57,040
to the public or if we characterize it

2800
01:56:01,109 --> 01:55:58,480
well we're not

2801
01:56:03,189 --> 01:56:01,119
we're just not reaching the people

2802
01:56:05,669 --> 01:56:03,199
and

2803
01:56:07,030 --> 01:56:05,679
you know i can i can complain all i want

2804
01:56:09,430 --> 01:56:07,040
about the algorithms and about

2805
01:56:11,750 --> 01:56:09,440
censorship but basically if my message

2806
01:56:13,990 --> 01:56:11,760
is not getting out there that's on me

2807
01:56:16,709 --> 01:56:14,000
it is my responsibility as a researcher

2808
01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:16,719
to do my very best to explain to people

2809
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:19,840
that this is a serious matter

2810
01:56:24,149 --> 01:56:21,840
and in fact we we haven't even gotten

2811
01:56:26,470 --> 01:56:24,159
into all of the depths of how serious

2812
01:56:28,870 --> 01:56:26,480
this thing can be

2813
01:56:32,709 --> 01:56:28,880
this could be grave

2814
01:56:35,270 --> 01:56:32,719
the ufo problem how aside from

2815
01:56:39,189 --> 01:56:37,109
you know i like to play all these little

2816
01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:39,199
mental counter intelligence games in my

2817
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:41,280
mind like i wonder

2818
01:56:46,709 --> 01:56:43,840
i wonder who these other beings are

2819
01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:46,719
now there's good evidence to think that

2820
01:56:50,550 --> 01:56:48,560
at least one contingent has been

2821
01:56:51,589 --> 01:56:50,560
overseeing or monitoring us maybe a

2822
01:56:54,310 --> 01:56:51,599
better word

2823
01:56:56,790 --> 01:56:54,320
uh monitoring us for a long long time

2824
01:56:58,950 --> 01:56:56,800
maybe for our entire existence as a

2825
01:57:01,990 --> 01:56:58,960
genuine civilization i think that's

2826
01:57:03,990 --> 01:57:02,000
actually possible i think in fact

2827
01:57:05,589 --> 01:57:04,000
maybe i think it's likely that there's

2828
01:57:07,030 --> 01:57:05,599
been at least one

2829
01:57:09,589 --> 01:57:07,040
advanced group

2830
01:57:12,390 --> 01:57:09,599
that has been watching us but

2831
01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:12,400
my feeling is that that for most of our

2832
01:57:16,070 --> 01:57:14,639
history has been at a pretty low level

2833
01:57:17,189 --> 01:57:16,080
i mean really what could they do with us

2834
01:57:19,189 --> 01:57:17,199
we were

2835
01:57:21,830 --> 01:57:19,199
you know fairly living in huts

2836
01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:21,840
essentially yeah campfires

2837
01:57:25,270 --> 01:57:23,599
yeah so there wasn't much but in the

2838
01:57:27,030 --> 01:57:25,280
last century century and a half

2839
01:57:28,709 --> 01:57:27,040
especially we've

2840
01:57:29,669 --> 01:57:28,719
we've gone through a massive revolution

2841
01:57:31,350 --> 01:57:29,679
we've

2842
01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:31,360
you know discovered science and

2843
01:57:34,870 --> 01:57:33,199
applications of science and we've

2844
01:57:36,790 --> 01:57:34,880
radically transformed our world into

2845
01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:36,800
something totally unrecognizable where

2846
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:39,119
we have genuine power now

2847
01:57:42,470 --> 01:57:41,040
i mean we're we're on the cusp of

2848
01:57:44,390 --> 01:57:42,480
massive breakthroughs in quantum

2849
01:57:45,589 --> 01:57:44,400
computing artificial intelligence and

2850
01:57:47,750 --> 01:57:45,599
weaponry

2851
01:57:49,750 --> 01:57:47,760
information tech i mean

2852
01:57:51,189 --> 01:57:49,760
it's just astonishing

2853
01:57:54,310 --> 01:57:51,199
we're all living in this and we don't

2854
01:57:56,070 --> 01:57:54,320
realize how crazy incredible this is and

2855
01:57:57,669 --> 01:57:56,080
also unnatural

2856
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:57,679
but that's a whole other thing but it's

2857
01:58:02,149 --> 01:57:59,679
transforming us into something totally

2858
01:58:04,070 --> 01:58:02,159
different basically a different species

2859
01:58:06,629 --> 01:58:04,080
certainly radically different like

2860
01:58:08,229 --> 01:58:06,639
that's all happening now so do you think

2861
01:58:10,790 --> 01:58:08,239
other species who have the ability to

2862
01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:10,800
monitor us aren't aware i think they are

2863
01:58:14,390 --> 01:58:13,040
they know we're about to leap right into

2864
01:58:16,550 --> 01:58:14,400
their world

2865
01:58:18,229 --> 01:58:16,560
so i think some of them might be

2866
01:58:20,550 --> 01:58:18,239
thinking hmm

2867
01:58:23,189 --> 01:58:20,560
do we want to manage this process if i

2868
01:58:24,870 --> 01:58:23,199
were them i might be thinking that

2869
01:58:26,149 --> 01:58:24,880
humans have a lot of initiative we're

2870
01:58:28,950 --> 01:58:26,159
kind of aggressive or at least we're

2871
01:58:31,030 --> 01:58:28,960
assertive we like to get our way

2872
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:31,040
we have we've got some pretty

2873
01:58:33,589 --> 01:58:32,560
interesting nukes and other types of

2874
01:58:35,350 --> 01:58:33,599
weapons

2875
01:58:37,430 --> 01:58:35,360
and i'm not saying we humans are

2876
01:58:39,990 --> 01:58:37,440
necessarily even the bad guys we're just

2877
01:58:42,229 --> 01:58:40,000
we just are who we are but if there are

2878
01:58:43,109 --> 01:58:42,239
other species

2879
01:58:47,270 --> 01:58:43,119
that

2880
01:58:49,510 --> 01:58:47,280
rocking the boat

2881
01:58:51,910 --> 01:58:49,520
changing things up

2882
01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:51,920
do you think they might just have an

2883
01:58:55,589 --> 01:58:52,960
interest

2884
01:58:57,669 --> 01:58:55,599
in managing our society

2885
01:58:59,910 --> 01:58:57,679
well who are these human-looking et

2886
01:59:01,430 --> 01:58:59,920
thing beings that i keep looking at you

2887
01:59:02,950 --> 01:59:01,440
know when people

2888
01:59:04,310 --> 01:59:02,960
have encounters with them i know you're

2889
01:59:06,550 --> 01:59:04,320
about to hit a break so i'm going to try

2890
01:59:08,550 --> 01:59:06,560
to wrap this up here

2891
01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:08,560
generally speaking encounters with these

2892
01:59:12,950 --> 01:59:10,960
human looking beings are

2893
01:59:14,310 --> 01:59:12,960
neutral to positive

2894
01:59:16,149 --> 01:59:14,320
so sometimes they seem positive

2895
01:59:17,750 --> 01:59:16,159
sometimes they're absolutely standoffish

2896
01:59:19,350 --> 01:59:17,760
and neutral

2897
01:59:22,070 --> 01:59:19,360
so it's not like they're necessarily

2898
01:59:25,589 --> 01:59:22,080
evil but i don't know what they're doing

2899
01:59:27,669 --> 01:59:25,599
if i were them if i were a telepathic

2900
01:59:29,109 --> 01:59:27,679
powerful alien

2901
01:59:31,669 --> 01:59:29,119
looking at

2902
01:59:33,990 --> 01:59:31,679
humanity running around as it is i might

2903
01:59:36,390 --> 01:59:34,000
want to get my hooks into this society

2904
01:59:38,310 --> 01:59:36,400
and control it to my satisfaction

2905
01:59:41,669 --> 01:59:38,320
i know one thing we're in the middle of

2906
01:59:44,870 --> 01:59:41,679
a massive global totalitarian

2907
01:59:46,950 --> 01:59:44,880
revolution right now and i would like to

2908
01:59:48,790 --> 01:59:46,960
know do these other beings have any

2909
01:59:51,510 --> 01:59:48,800
relationship to that

2910
01:59:52,790 --> 01:59:51,520
what if what if they do seriously

2911
01:59:54,870 --> 01:59:52,800
we wouldn't i don't know if we'd be able

2912
01:59:56,149 --> 01:59:54,880
to do a thing about it

2913
01:59:57,910 --> 01:59:56,159
but i wonder

2914
01:59:59,189 --> 01:59:57,920
is it crazy for me to wonder i don't

2915
02:00:00,470 --> 01:59:59,199
think it is

2916
02:00:02,550 --> 02:00:00,480
i mean the fact is we don't have a lot

2917
02:00:05,510 --> 02:00:02,560
of information about this

2918
02:00:08,470 --> 02:00:05,520
and so as a result of that

2919
02:00:10,629 --> 02:00:08,480
it's in my opinion it's a reasonable

2920
02:00:13,270 --> 02:00:10,639
point of speculation

2921
02:00:14,629 --> 02:00:13,280
so there are some serious questions to

2922
02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:14,639
consider

2923
02:00:19,350 --> 02:00:17,119
the presence of others as i sometimes

2924
02:00:21,189 --> 02:00:19,360
call them here on planet earth

2925
02:00:22,709 --> 02:00:21,199
undisclosed they're not disclosing

2926
02:00:24,950 --> 02:00:22,719
themselves either

2927
02:00:27,030 --> 02:00:24,960
involved in a massive operation as far

2928
02:00:28,390 --> 02:00:27,040
as i can see every single day every

2929
02:00:30,470 --> 02:00:28,400
single night doing what the hell are

2930
02:00:32,070 --> 02:00:30,480
they doing

2931
02:00:34,470 --> 02:00:32,080
and we're in the middle of a massive

2932
02:00:36,550 --> 02:00:34,480
revolution right now in which we're

2933
02:00:38,470 --> 02:00:36,560
turning our society into i don't know

2934
02:00:40,390 --> 02:00:38,480
the borg

2935
02:00:42,390 --> 02:00:40,400
so yes yes i'd like to know

2936
02:00:43,669 --> 02:00:42,400
we'll continue we'll continue this right

2937
02:00:45,350 --> 02:00:43,679
after the break our guest tonight

2938
02:00:46,629 --> 02:00:45,360
richard bleep and dolan i'm your host

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they're unhealthy gross and disgusting

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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3045
02:06:04,390 --> 02:06:02,719
welcome back fade to black help your

3046
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host jimmy church tonight richard bleep

3047
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and dolan is with us

3048
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[Music]

3049
02:06:14,069 --> 02:06:12,320
and right before the break this is fade

3050
02:06:16,629 --> 02:06:14,079
to black uh right before the break a

3051
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little bit of a recap uh richard we were

3052
02:06:19,350 --> 02:06:18,159
discussing

3053
02:06:22,470 --> 02:06:19,360
um

3054
02:06:24,390 --> 02:06:22,480
an observation uh of us from

3055
02:06:25,189 --> 02:06:24,400
extraterrestrials that potentially could

3056
02:06:27,990 --> 02:06:25,199
be

3057
02:06:29,189 --> 02:06:28,000
uh you know very aged and and going back

3058
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for a long time there's i don't think

3059
02:06:33,189 --> 02:06:30,960
there's uh

3060
02:06:35,669 --> 02:06:33,199
any it's a numbers game richard there

3061
02:06:38,390 --> 02:06:35,679
are billions 40 billion earth-like

3062
02:06:41,430 --> 02:06:38,400
planets right here in our milky way not

3063
02:06:42,229 --> 02:06:41,440
the universe in the milky way

3064
02:06:44,470 --> 02:06:42,239
so

3065
02:06:48,470 --> 02:06:44,480
uh the odds of uh

3066
02:06:50,629 --> 02:06:48,480
multiple uh etcs out there and uh with

3067
02:06:53,589 --> 02:06:50,639
the knowledge of our planet it's just a

3068
02:06:56,790 --> 02:06:53,599
numbers game and so certainly they know

3069
02:06:58,390 --> 02:06:56,800
what is going on here but this is i want

3070
02:07:00,069 --> 02:06:58,400
to go back to your comment

3071
02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:00,079
about control

3072
02:07:09,030 --> 02:07:06,470
a variety of messages

3073
02:07:11,990 --> 02:07:09,040
which uh suggest to me

3074
02:07:12,870 --> 02:07:12,000
that there are multiple races that are

3075
02:07:13,830 --> 02:07:12,880
here

3076
02:07:16,790 --> 02:07:13,840
because

3077
02:07:19,109 --> 02:07:16,800
we've got the the whole faction of

3078
02:07:21,109 --> 02:07:19,119
contactees that say that

3079
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:21,119
uh they're here to save us and help us

3080
02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:23,760
and and work with us there are others

3081
02:07:29,510 --> 02:07:26,800
that say that they are here to

3082
02:07:31,750 --> 02:07:29,520
uh uh change the atmosphere and the

3083
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:31,760
environment so they can come over and

3084
02:07:37,030 --> 02:07:34,480
and live without spacesuits you know and

3085
02:07:40,470 --> 02:07:37,040
it and and then of course we have uh the

3086
02:07:43,669 --> 02:07:40,480
reptilian agenda and everything else so

3087
02:07:46,790 --> 02:07:43,679
there's a variety of messages uh

3088
02:07:48,550 --> 02:07:46,800
that that address this and and are they

3089
02:07:49,990 --> 02:07:48,560
all right

3090
02:07:52,550 --> 02:07:50,000
you know what i mean

3091
02:07:54,950 --> 02:07:52,560
is is there no no they're not all right

3092
02:07:57,589 --> 02:07:54,960
because some i i don't think they're all

3093
02:08:00,069 --> 02:07:57,599
right but i think some of them are right

3094
02:08:03,270 --> 02:08:00,079
i do think where

3095
02:08:04,870 --> 02:08:03,280
my my working theory at this time is

3096
02:08:07,350 --> 02:08:04,880
that for

3097
02:08:09,669 --> 02:08:07,360
most of our history

3098
02:08:11,669 --> 02:08:09,679
we were not besieged

3099
02:08:13,669 --> 02:08:11,679
by the neighborhood the galactic

3100
02:08:15,109 --> 02:08:13,679
neighborhood or the interstellar

3101
02:08:17,030 --> 02:08:15,119
neighborhood

3102
02:08:19,589 --> 02:08:17,040
i think things were pretty quiet and i

3103
02:08:21,430 --> 02:08:19,599
think in the last century and a half

3104
02:08:22,870 --> 02:08:21,440
let's let's say

3105
02:08:24,470 --> 02:08:22,880
uh we started getting a lot more

3106
02:08:26,709 --> 02:08:24,480
activity and if you look at ufo

3107
02:08:27,990 --> 02:08:26,719
sightings all right look so we have many

3108
02:08:30,390 --> 02:08:28,000
more people there's many more

3109
02:08:32,709 --> 02:08:30,400
opportunities

3110
02:08:34,229 --> 02:08:32,719
for sightings to occur

3111
02:08:35,750 --> 02:08:34,239
but i think there

3112
02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:35,760
there are just way more sightings than

3113
02:08:40,629 --> 02:08:37,840
there's ever been before

3114
02:08:42,470 --> 02:08:40,639
and i think that's because

3115
02:08:43,589 --> 02:08:42,480
there's more of them that are here than

3116
02:08:45,430 --> 02:08:43,599
ever before i think that there's

3117
02:08:47,430 --> 02:08:45,440
something big that's going on and it

3118
02:08:49,350 --> 02:08:47,440
makes perfect sense

3119
02:08:51,109 --> 02:08:49,360
uh now is the time and so i think we're

3120
02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:51,119
bringing in the good the bad the ugly so

3121
02:08:54,470 --> 02:08:53,440
to speak we're bringing them all in

3122
02:08:56,470 --> 02:08:54,480
uh

3123
02:08:59,270 --> 02:08:56,480
i do think it's entirely

3124
02:09:01,270 --> 02:08:59,280
likely that some

3125
02:09:02,709 --> 02:09:01,280
other extraterrestrial groups or

3126
02:09:03,430 --> 02:09:02,719
interdimensional groups whatever they

3127
02:09:05,830 --> 02:09:03,440
are

3128
02:09:08,229 --> 02:09:05,840
that they may be

3129
02:09:10,470 --> 02:09:08,239
interested or at least not overtly

3130
02:09:13,750 --> 02:09:10,480
interested in harming us and they might

3131
02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:13,760
want to see things go well for us maybe

3132
02:09:17,750 --> 02:09:15,520
maybe passively i mean i don't know

3133
02:09:19,430 --> 02:09:17,760
active no no one's

3134
02:09:20,790 --> 02:09:19,440
fixing our infrastructure no one's

3135
02:09:23,350 --> 02:09:20,800
fixing our world of course maybe they

3136
02:09:25,750 --> 02:09:23,360
can't probably they can't really

3137
02:09:28,149 --> 02:09:25,760
is it the prime directive is it you know

3138
02:09:30,870 --> 02:09:28,159
what i mean to go into a little science

3139
02:09:34,470 --> 02:09:30,880
fiction comparison uh but

3140
02:09:36,470 --> 02:09:34,480
uh the prime directive uh

3141
02:09:38,229 --> 02:09:36,480
you know our version of it is that what

3142
02:09:40,390 --> 02:09:38,239
comes into play

3143
02:09:41,189 --> 02:09:40,400
possibly but but it might just be logic

3144
02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:41,199
like

3145
02:09:45,830 --> 02:09:42,480
if you're

3146
02:09:47,830 --> 02:09:45,840
extraterrestrial race and you and you

3147
02:09:48,870 --> 02:09:47,840
arrive and you see these human beings

3148
02:09:50,310 --> 02:09:48,880
let's say it's

3149
02:09:52,149 --> 02:09:50,320
you're in the middle of renaissance

3150
02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:52,159
europe all right so it's

3151
02:09:55,030 --> 02:09:53,520
500 years ago

3152
02:09:56,470 --> 02:09:55,040
and you see them you're like wow you

3153
02:09:58,069 --> 02:09:56,480
know they're very very primitive but

3154
02:10:00,069 --> 02:09:58,079
they got people like leonardo da vinci

3155
02:10:02,149 --> 02:10:00,079
and they've got other like they've got

3156
02:10:04,550 --> 02:10:02,159
they've there's something

3157
02:10:06,310 --> 02:10:04,560
special here

3158
02:10:08,069 --> 02:10:06,320
and and if we were to

3159
02:10:09,109 --> 02:10:08,079
do anything we might we might screw it

3160
02:10:11,669 --> 02:10:09,119
up like

3161
02:10:13,189 --> 02:10:11,679
what if if humanity itself is is quite

3162
02:10:15,350 --> 02:10:13,199
valuable

3163
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:15,360
and so it would be like this

3164
02:10:20,310 --> 02:10:17,920
this incredible plant or creature that

3165
02:10:22,390 --> 02:10:20,320
you you want like if you handle it the

3166
02:10:24,950 --> 02:10:22,400
wrong way you're gonna screw it up

3167
02:10:28,229 --> 02:10:24,960
and i i think that would be the case

3168
02:10:30,870 --> 02:10:28,239
so it could easily be a situation where

3169
02:10:32,629 --> 02:10:30,880
they just know all right we really can't

3170
02:10:34,550 --> 02:10:32,639
we're not going to screw them up we're

3171
02:10:36,629 --> 02:10:34,560
going to let them develop

3172
02:10:38,870 --> 02:10:36,639
and see what happens so now we're at a

3173
02:10:40,950 --> 02:10:38,880
point where

3174
02:10:42,629 --> 02:10:40,960
we're now building a very very

3175
02:10:44,950 --> 02:10:42,639
interesting infrastructure

3176
02:10:48,069 --> 02:10:44,960
and let's say

3177
02:10:49,750 --> 02:10:48,079
you're an alien and you're you see earth

3178
02:10:51,270 --> 02:10:49,760
and you're like this is a really nice

3179
02:10:53,189 --> 02:10:51,280
planet okay there's a lot of other nice

3180
02:10:54,870 --> 02:10:53,199
planets but this is a very nice one like

3181
02:10:57,270 --> 02:10:54,880
they got all this clean water and all of

3182
02:10:59,270 --> 02:10:57,280
this genetic diversity in this

3183
02:11:01,589 --> 02:10:59,280
and um and some pretty good food if

3184
02:11:03,510 --> 02:11:01,599
you've got the right body for it

3185
02:11:04,950 --> 02:11:03,520
well look we're already becoming we're

3186
02:11:07,030 --> 02:11:04,960
soon to become masters of genetic

3187
02:11:08,470 --> 02:11:07,040
engineering ourselves

3188
02:11:09,750 --> 02:11:08,480
i mean we're

3189
02:11:11,189 --> 02:11:09,760
going to turn ourselves into some kind

3190
02:11:12,390 --> 02:11:11,199
of future freak i don't know what we're

3191
02:11:13,669 --> 02:11:12,400
going to look like it's not going to be

3192
02:11:17,109 --> 02:11:13,679
like this

3193
02:11:19,270 --> 02:11:17,119
but the point is genetic engineering

3194
02:11:21,750 --> 02:11:19,280
is one of the

3195
02:11:23,270 --> 02:11:21,760
utopian dystopian things that we're

3196
02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:23,280
moving ourselves into

3197
02:11:29,189 --> 02:11:26,320
so you've got to assume that a highly

3198
02:11:30,470 --> 02:11:29,199
intelligent extraterrestrial race can do

3199
02:11:32,550 --> 02:11:30,480
the same

3200
02:11:34,310 --> 02:11:32,560
so would they think you know what maybe

3201
02:11:35,830 --> 02:11:34,320
we'll this is this is david jacobs

3202
02:11:37,510 --> 02:11:35,840
thesis in a sense

3203
02:11:38,550 --> 02:11:37,520
you know we can essentially give

3204
02:11:41,189 --> 02:11:38,560
ourselves

3205
02:11:43,830 --> 02:11:41,199
human bodies we'll keep

3206
02:11:45,750 --> 02:11:43,840
the fundamental nature of what we are

3207
02:11:47,189 --> 02:11:45,760
our telepathy we'll keep that and maybe

3208
02:11:48,790 --> 02:11:47,199
some other qualities

3209
02:11:50,390 --> 02:11:48,800
but it would be kind of nice to live on

3210
02:11:52,470 --> 02:11:50,400
the riviera and eat caviar and have

3211
02:11:54,149 --> 02:11:52,480
these humans just do things for us and

3212
02:11:55,910 --> 02:11:54,159
plus we can make ourselves live for 500

3213
02:11:58,390 --> 02:11:55,920
or a thousand years and maybe when we're

3214
02:11:59,750 --> 02:11:58,400
done we'll figure out the technique of

3215
02:12:01,189 --> 02:11:59,760
transferring our consciousnesses to

3216
02:12:03,350 --> 02:12:01,199
another body

3217
02:12:05,350 --> 02:12:03,360
well it may be a great place to live so

3218
02:12:07,270 --> 02:12:05,360
you brought up you know sentient world

3219
02:12:11,030 --> 02:12:07,280
simulation earlier

3220
02:12:14,149 --> 02:12:11,040
and if we have that now certainly et has

3221
02:12:16,310 --> 02:12:14,159
got their own version of that same ai

3222
02:12:18,149 --> 02:12:16,320
software probably way better right and

3223
02:12:21,830 --> 02:12:18,159
they take a look at earth and they plug

3224
02:12:24,310 --> 02:12:21,840
in a couple of variables right uh

3225
02:12:25,510 --> 02:12:24,320
warp speed faster than light space

3226
02:12:26,629 --> 02:12:25,520
travel

3227
02:12:31,270 --> 02:12:26,639
and

3228
02:12:33,589 --> 02:12:31,280
they're like 50 years away

3229
02:12:37,109 --> 02:12:33,599
of visiting the stars

3230
02:12:37,990 --> 02:12:37,119
with nuclear weapons right

3231
02:12:40,950 --> 02:12:38,000
yes

3232
02:12:42,950 --> 02:12:40,960
right they that that's that's got to be

3233
02:12:45,510 --> 02:12:42,960
an inevitable

3234
02:12:46,390 --> 02:12:45,520
view of this planet where they they now

3235
02:12:49,350 --> 02:12:46,400
know

3236
02:12:51,189 --> 02:12:49,360
that we are that close if we if we went

3237
02:12:52,709 --> 02:12:51,199
from covered wagons

3238
02:12:54,310 --> 02:12:52,719
uh to

3239
02:12:57,430 --> 02:12:54,320
perseverance

3240
02:13:01,189 --> 02:12:57,440
and a helicopter on mars in 100 years

3241
02:13:03,669 --> 02:13:01,199
where where are we going to be in 50

3242
02:13:05,030 --> 02:13:03,679
right exactly so i have to assume

3243
02:13:08,709 --> 02:13:05,040
they've game planned this whole thing

3244
02:13:10,149 --> 02:13:08,719
out sure as well yeah

3245
02:13:12,790 --> 02:13:10,159
so um

3246
02:13:14,470 --> 02:13:12,800
i mean really what it it may come down

3247
02:13:15,750 --> 02:13:14,480
to is that we

3248
02:13:18,550 --> 02:13:15,760
we like to think that we have some

3249
02:13:19,910 --> 02:13:18,560
agency here and maybe we don't have any

3250
02:13:21,350 --> 02:13:19,920
that's not really fun for us to think

3251
02:13:23,270 --> 02:13:21,360
about but

3252
02:13:25,510 --> 02:13:23,280
is it true is it possible do we is there

3253
02:13:26,229 --> 02:13:25,520
really anything that we really even can

3254
02:13:29,510 --> 02:13:26,239
do

3255
02:13:31,030 --> 02:13:29,520
i mean for me i'll always believe in

3256
02:13:32,550 --> 02:13:31,040
human free will

3257
02:13:34,310 --> 02:13:32,560
even though people like sam harris says

3258
02:13:36,229 --> 02:13:34,320
no no such thing as free will i think

3259
02:13:37,990 --> 02:13:36,239
that there is and i think that there's

3260
02:13:38,870 --> 02:13:38,000
still the possibility for human beings

3261
02:13:41,109 --> 02:13:38,880
to be

3262
02:13:43,030 --> 02:13:41,119
the authors of our own destiny

3263
02:13:46,550 --> 02:13:43,040
but let's not kid ourselves i think

3264
02:13:47,589 --> 02:13:46,560
we're dealing with a very very powerful

3265
02:13:49,990 --> 02:13:47,599
presence

3266
02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:50,000
of other beings that are here now the

3267
02:13:52,709 --> 02:13:51,360
ones who are supposed to be here to help

3268
02:13:54,390 --> 02:13:52,719
us

3269
02:13:56,629 --> 02:13:54,400
i mean if i moved out to the west coast

3270
02:14:00,390 --> 02:13:56,639
i'm sure i would encounter that idea

3271
02:14:02,069 --> 02:14:00,400
much much more than i currently do

3272
02:14:03,189 --> 02:14:02,079
um

3273
02:14:03,990 --> 02:14:03,199
you know

3274
02:14:06,950 --> 02:14:04,000
how

3275
02:14:09,109 --> 02:14:06,960
by

3276
02:14:10,870 --> 02:14:09,119
giving us starseeds

3277
02:14:14,709 --> 02:14:10,880
star children

3278
02:14:16,229 --> 02:14:14,719
doing for this world frankly

3279
02:14:17,669 --> 02:14:16,239
what are they doing to

3280
02:14:19,669 --> 02:14:17,679
to change

3281
02:14:22,790 --> 02:14:19,679
to make things less

3282
02:14:24,830 --> 02:14:22,800
scary and actually to tangibly

3283
02:14:26,629 --> 02:14:24,840
improve our world i don't really see

3284
02:14:28,790 --> 02:14:26,639
anything uh

3285
02:14:31,030 --> 02:14:28,800
giving us a couple of nice you know

3286
02:14:32,470 --> 02:14:31,040
humanity new age messages every once in

3287
02:14:33,589 --> 02:14:32,480
a while

3288
02:14:35,350 --> 02:14:33,599
what's really happening i thought we

3289
02:14:36,790 --> 02:14:35,360
were supposed to ascend in 2012 whatever

3290
02:14:38,709 --> 02:14:36,800
happened to that

3291
02:14:40,310 --> 02:14:38,719
what happened to you know

3292
02:14:41,910 --> 02:14:40,320
you didn't have we didn't have 51

3293
02:14:44,390 --> 02:14:41,920
positive karma i suppose i don't know

3294
02:14:46,629 --> 02:14:44,400
what it was i mean the fact is

3295
02:14:49,030 --> 02:14:46,639
so much of this ideology

3296
02:14:51,109 --> 02:14:49,040
of that ideology has permeated and i

3297
02:14:52,830 --> 02:14:51,119
would actually say poisoned

3298
02:14:55,990 --> 02:14:52,840
a lot of

3299
02:14:58,629 --> 02:14:56,000
really solid thinking on ufos and and

3300
02:15:00,790 --> 02:14:58,639
also evidence-based research

3301
02:15:03,350 --> 02:15:00,800
well why you can't i can't have ufology

3302
02:15:05,350 --> 02:15:03,360
based on wish fulfillment sure and why

3303
02:15:07,030 --> 02:15:05,360
the wrong ascension thing and the

3304
02:15:08,550 --> 02:15:07,040
a lot of that is just wish fulfillment

3305
02:15:11,830 --> 02:15:08,560
in my opinion but

3306
02:15:13,990 --> 02:15:11,840
fantasy-based utopianism how is it that

3307
02:15:17,430 --> 02:15:14,000
we

3308
02:15:18,790 --> 02:15:17,440
us

3309
02:15:20,830 --> 02:15:18,800
right

3310
02:15:23,189 --> 02:15:20,840
what's our psychology

3311
02:15:25,189 --> 02:15:23,199
probably i mean you know we you know we

3312
02:15:27,030 --> 02:15:25,199
were born as helpless infants and we had

3313
02:15:29,189 --> 02:15:27,040
mom and dad there who were omniscient

3314
02:15:30,950 --> 02:15:29,199
and omnipotent as far as we knew

3315
02:15:32,069 --> 02:15:30,960
so you know right from your get-go

3316
02:15:34,229 --> 02:15:32,079
you're

3317
02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:34,239
growing up depending on it

3318
02:15:38,470 --> 02:15:36,400
authority and by the way we need we need

3319
02:15:41,109 --> 02:15:38,480
the authority let's just get real you

3320
02:15:42,950 --> 02:15:41,119
know human beings on their own without

3321
02:15:44,470 --> 02:15:42,960
a higher authority we're that's pretty

3322
02:15:46,870 --> 02:15:44,480
messed up

3323
02:15:49,510 --> 02:15:46,880
uh and we see the world around us as a

3324
02:15:50,709 --> 02:15:49,520
result so we we're not good

3325
02:15:54,229 --> 02:15:50,719
without

3326
02:15:55,910 --> 02:15:54,239
the freedom

3327
02:15:58,950 --> 02:15:55,920
but we need we're going to need someone

3328
02:16:01,270 --> 02:15:58,960
to wag the finger and the problem is

3329
02:16:04,390 --> 02:16:01,280
that that's not going to be a government

3330
02:16:06,390 --> 02:16:04,400
international financial elite that's

3331
02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:06,400
going to be doing that

3332
02:16:10,310 --> 02:16:08,320
the uh i just don't trust that

3333
02:16:12,629 --> 02:16:10,320
i don't have to trust my higher ethics

3334
02:16:17,830 --> 02:16:12,639
thanks very much oh man

3335
02:16:20,550 --> 02:16:17,840
it it it is it has come to the point now

3336
02:16:22,950 --> 02:16:20,560
um i literally

3337
02:16:24,310 --> 02:16:22,960
don't trust anything that i read or see

3338
02:16:26,390 --> 02:16:24,320
anymore

3339
02:16:28,470 --> 02:16:26,400
well certainly in western media you must

3340
02:16:30,069 --> 02:16:28,480
not ever trust and i mean

3341
02:16:32,469 --> 02:16:30,079
do not

3342
02:16:34,870 --> 02:16:32,479
it's just a machinery of lies one after

3343
02:16:38,309 --> 02:16:34,880
the next day it's so bad now it's it's

3344
02:16:40,389 --> 02:16:38,319
east and west it's north and south it it

3345
02:16:42,549 --> 02:16:40,399
well it's very much west

3346
02:16:43,750 --> 02:16:42,559
it's very much west that's because we're

3347
02:16:48,389 --> 02:16:43,760
here

3348
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:48,399
you go to china and you're going to tell

3349
02:16:53,830 --> 02:16:50,960
me they have freedom of media

3350
02:16:56,950 --> 02:16:53,840
i don't think so no they do not okay

3351
02:16:57,830 --> 02:16:56,960
they don't in iran or pakistan or

3352
02:16:59,349 --> 02:16:57,840
you know

3353
02:17:01,030 --> 02:16:59,359
but what we're seeing right now we're

3354
02:17:03,030 --> 02:17:01,040
seeing basically the world right now

3355
02:17:04,469 --> 02:17:03,040
there's no good guys this is like mafia

3356
02:17:06,469 --> 02:17:04,479
wars

3357
02:17:08,469 --> 02:17:06,479
that's really what we got yeah the west

3358
02:17:10,309 --> 02:17:08,479
is one mafia family

3359
02:17:12,950 --> 02:17:10,319
russia's another mafia family china's

3360
02:17:14,950 --> 02:17:12,960
under the mafia family sure

3361
02:17:15,750 --> 02:17:14,960
and and is each mafia family trying to

3362
02:17:17,509 --> 02:17:15,760
tell

3363
02:17:18,790 --> 02:17:17,519
their people oh no where where are the

3364
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:18,800
good guys

3365
02:17:24,709 --> 02:17:23,040
here's here but here's the thing

3366
02:17:26,629 --> 02:17:24,719
uh richard

3367
02:17:28,629 --> 02:17:26,639
i know

3368
02:17:30,389 --> 02:17:28,639
that i have seen

3369
02:17:32,950 --> 02:17:30,399
stuff in the sky

3370
02:17:35,110 --> 02:17:32,960
that cannot be explained

3371
02:17:36,950 --> 02:17:35,120
period that's it i want to get into this

3372
02:17:39,349 --> 02:17:36,960
with you that's it

3373
02:17:40,830 --> 02:17:39,359
right just stop right there and then i

3374
02:17:44,549 --> 02:17:40,840
turn to

3375
02:17:46,629 --> 02:17:44,559
resources to try to find out any and it

3376
02:17:50,150 --> 02:17:46,639
is simply not there and

3377
02:17:51,750 --> 02:17:50,160
and those are those that i'm supposed to

3378
02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:51,760
uh pay for

3379
02:17:55,110 --> 02:17:52,639
right

3380
02:17:57,429 --> 02:17:55,120
pay my taxes that are here for my

3381
02:18:00,709 --> 02:17:57,439
support and my information gathering

3382
02:18:03,509 --> 02:18:00,719
um are telling me that i didn't see it

3383
02:18:04,230 --> 02:18:03,519
or that i'm crazy that's that's nuts to

3384
02:18:06,469 --> 02:18:04,240
me

3385
02:18:08,150 --> 02:18:06,479
the

3386
02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:08,160
story alice in wonderland by lewis

3387
02:18:12,070 --> 02:18:10,639
carroll so alice chases after the white

3388
02:18:14,070 --> 02:18:12,080
rabbit she goes down

3389
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:14,080
the hole down down down down down boom

3390
02:18:18,070 --> 02:18:15,679
lands in this crazy world where

3391
02:18:20,150 --> 02:18:18,080
everything's nuts it's wonderland

3392
02:18:23,110 --> 02:18:20,160
i feel like we

3393
02:18:25,270 --> 02:18:23,120
live in wonderland every time we

3394
02:18:27,270 --> 02:18:25,280
engage in our major media it's like

3395
02:18:30,469 --> 02:18:27,280
that's actually like we live in this

3396
02:18:34,389 --> 02:18:30,479
real world but the media

3397
02:18:36,469 --> 02:18:34,399
is so fictitious it's so crazy

3398
02:18:40,150 --> 02:18:36,479
it's so psychedelic in its own way and

3399
02:18:42,070 --> 02:18:40,160
distracting and manipulative

3400
02:18:44,389 --> 02:18:42,080
that that's actually the empire of

3401
02:18:45,509 --> 02:18:44,399
wonderland it just is designed

3402
02:18:47,190 --> 02:18:45,519
i've been thinking about this for

3403
02:18:49,669 --> 02:18:47,200
decades this

3404
02:18:51,110 --> 02:18:49,679
so yes and and in our reality part of

3405
02:18:53,270 --> 02:18:51,120
that reality

3406
02:18:55,750 --> 02:18:53,280
is that the ufos are real

3407
02:18:57,669 --> 02:18:55,760
like that's actually a real thing and

3408
02:18:59,270 --> 02:18:57,679
yet it's denied

3409
02:19:00,709 --> 02:18:59,280
it's been consistently denied in our

3410
02:19:02,549 --> 02:19:00,719
major media

3411
02:19:04,629 --> 02:19:02,559
and all the respectable sources still in

3412
02:19:06,870 --> 02:19:04,639
academia they are just so their heads up

3413
02:19:09,589 --> 02:19:06,880
their asses for so long they still

3414
02:19:11,270 --> 02:19:09,599
cannot recognize that the ufo phenomenon

3415
02:19:13,110 --> 02:19:11,280
is real and important

3416
02:19:15,110 --> 02:19:13,120
and our media is

3417
02:19:16,950 --> 02:19:15,120
by and large the same

3418
02:19:19,030 --> 02:19:16,960
uh even now after these four and a half

3419
02:19:21,509 --> 02:19:19,040
years of relative openness they still

3420
02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:21,519
there's not any understanding in major

3421
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:22,960
media on this

3422
02:19:26,950 --> 02:19:25,120
and no genuine research

3423
02:19:28,549 --> 02:19:26,960
makes it to them

3424
02:19:29,750 --> 02:19:28,559
so um

3425
02:19:31,110 --> 02:19:29,760
yeah i mean there's just they're

3426
02:19:32,950 --> 02:19:31,120
hopeless

3427
02:19:35,190 --> 02:19:32,960
and it's just it's it's getting worse

3428
02:19:38,070 --> 02:19:35,200
not better you're asking the last

3429
02:19:40,950 --> 02:19:38,080
segment you know is our political

3430
02:19:43,669 --> 02:19:40,960
is our political establishment able to

3431
02:19:45,110 --> 02:19:43,679
move this issue forward and

3432
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:45,120
i mean there's a part of me that just

3433
02:19:49,270 --> 02:19:46,960
wants to believe it can you know i mean

3434
02:19:51,270 --> 02:19:49,280
i'm not gonna lie it would be nice if

3435
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:51,280
if the um

3436
02:19:54,870 --> 02:19:53,120
this new office in the gila brand

3437
02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:54,880
amendment can actually

3438
02:20:00,070 --> 02:19:57,760
get some capability but

3439
02:20:03,110 --> 02:20:00,080
um i just don't think so i just i've

3440
02:20:05,750 --> 02:20:03,120
seen too many years of

3441
02:20:08,309 --> 02:20:05,760
of cynical

3442
02:20:10,309 --> 02:20:08,319
power grabs by the military-industrial

3443
02:20:13,349 --> 02:20:10,319
establishment

3444
02:20:16,230 --> 02:20:13,359
military complex i just think they they

3445
02:20:18,630 --> 02:20:16,240
are probably going to find a way to

3446
02:20:21,190 --> 02:20:18,640
disable that and the media will

3447
02:20:23,590 --> 02:20:21,200
continually find a way to

3448
02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:23,600
marginalize the topics that it needs to

3449
02:20:27,830 --> 02:20:26,080
there's resistance people you know

3450
02:20:28,950 --> 02:20:27,840
people in the united states and around

3451
02:20:30,389 --> 02:20:28,960
the world

3452
02:20:32,309 --> 02:20:30,399
they are unhappy

3453
02:20:34,469 --> 02:20:32,319
they do know they're being

3454
02:20:36,070 --> 02:20:34,479
spoon fed bs all the time they're aware

3455
02:20:38,230 --> 02:20:36,080
of the deep platforming they're sick and

3456
02:20:39,590 --> 02:20:38,240
tired of it all that is true you know

3457
02:20:41,190 --> 02:20:39,600
what's going to happen

3458
02:20:43,349 --> 02:20:41,200
you watch this year a couple of false

3459
02:20:44,469 --> 02:20:43,359
flags will happen i guarantee

3460
02:20:45,830 --> 02:20:44,479
i don't know what they will be but

3461
02:20:47,270 --> 02:20:45,840
they'll be

3462
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:47,280
dramatic

3463
02:20:52,550 --> 02:20:49,600
and and there will be ways

3464
02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:52,560
continually to manage the public

3465
02:20:57,510 --> 02:20:54,960
just like a good rider riding a horse a

3466
02:20:59,830 --> 02:20:57,520
horse has its own will it's got its own

3467
02:21:01,750 --> 02:20:59,840
but if you're a good writer you can ride

3468
02:21:03,190 --> 02:21:01,760
that beast and that's that's what they

3469
02:21:05,510 --> 02:21:03,200
will do to us

3470
02:21:07,429 --> 02:21:05,520
i mean if if we're not careful

3471
02:21:09,270 --> 02:21:07,439
um look what's happened to these these

3472
02:21:11,110 --> 02:21:09,280
i'm gonna say heroic

3473
02:21:12,469 --> 02:21:11,120
truckers in canada and now in the united

3474
02:21:14,790 --> 02:21:12,479
states

3475
02:21:16,150 --> 02:21:14,800
they've been demonized by their own

3476
02:21:17,590 --> 02:21:16,160
government

3477
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:17,600
criminally

3478
02:21:20,790 --> 02:21:19,120
and and essentially thrown into the

3479
02:21:22,630 --> 02:21:20,800
memory hole

3480
02:21:23,910 --> 02:21:22,640
you know canada has rescinded a lot of

3481
02:21:26,790 --> 02:21:23,920
those mandates they didn't give the

3482
02:21:29,990 --> 02:21:26,800
truckers one ounce of credit

3483
02:21:31,429 --> 02:21:30,000
the disingenuous

3484
02:21:33,270 --> 02:21:31,439
um

3485
02:21:35,590 --> 02:21:33,280
you know nature of those people is just

3486
02:21:37,110 --> 02:21:35,600
beyond words and uh and we're going to

3487
02:21:39,349 --> 02:21:37,120
see the same thing in the united states

3488
02:21:41,429 --> 02:21:39,359
they'll just find a way

3489
02:21:44,309 --> 02:21:41,439
the people you know the people in this

3490
02:21:46,469 --> 02:21:44,319
world we want truth

3491
02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:46,479
we we really do want truth

3492
02:21:50,309 --> 02:21:48,000
and

3493
02:21:52,150 --> 02:21:50,319
the the things we got to do to get to

3494
02:21:53,750 --> 02:21:52,160
fight for it

3495
02:21:55,429 --> 02:21:53,760
a lot a lot of folks will have said to

3496
02:21:56,950 --> 02:21:55,439
me for years i'm sure they said to you

3497
02:21:59,270 --> 02:21:56,960
we don't need the government to disclose

3498
02:22:00,870 --> 02:21:59,280
we know the truth and that's

3499
02:22:02,630 --> 02:22:00,880
that's true

3500
02:22:04,870 --> 02:22:02,640
that's a true statement like

3501
02:22:06,710 --> 02:22:04,880
i don't need

3502
02:22:08,230 --> 02:22:06,720
a united states president to tell me

3503
02:22:10,230 --> 02:22:08,240
what i already know about the ufo

3504
02:22:13,349 --> 02:22:10,240
phenomenon and neither does anyone

3505
02:22:15,349 --> 02:22:13,359
listening but here's the sticking point

3506
02:22:17,510 --> 02:22:15,359
it's like that government is supposed to

3507
02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:17,520
belong to me and to you and to everyone

3508
02:22:20,710 --> 02:22:18,479
listening

3509
02:22:23,510 --> 02:22:20,720
they're supposed to belong to us damn it

3510
02:22:27,030 --> 02:22:23,520
and when they lie when they goddamn lie

3511
02:22:29,030 --> 02:22:27,040
to me every day every week about this

3512
02:22:30,870 --> 02:22:29,040
that's a failure

3513
02:22:35,590 --> 02:22:30,880
that's a betrayal

3514
02:22:38,230 --> 02:22:35,600
system that

3515
02:22:40,469 --> 02:22:38,240
you know we're supposed to have

3516
02:22:42,950 --> 02:22:40,479
we're supposed to have a system in which

3517
02:22:45,429 --> 02:22:42,960
our government responds to us

3518
02:22:46,870 --> 02:22:45,439
not the reverse they are here to serve

3519
02:22:48,469 --> 02:22:46,880
us

3520
02:22:50,550 --> 02:22:48,479
that's the system

3521
02:22:52,630 --> 02:22:50,560
and when they lie and lie and lie and

3522
02:22:54,070 --> 02:22:52,640
they can't be responsible and this is an

3523
02:22:55,990 --> 02:22:54,080
important subject this isn't just some

3524
02:22:57,750 --> 02:22:56,000
trivial matter

3525
02:22:59,510 --> 02:22:57,760
this this could be the single most

3526
02:23:01,510 --> 02:22:59,520
important thing in the world

3527
02:23:03,429 --> 02:23:01,520
ever no one is allowed to talk about it

3528
02:23:06,070 --> 02:23:03,439
that's right there are other beings here

3529
02:23:07,750 --> 02:23:06,080
in the midst of our own crazy global

3530
02:23:09,750 --> 02:23:07,760
revolution

3531
02:23:11,670 --> 02:23:09,760
and we're not even not even having the

3532
02:23:13,429 --> 02:23:11,680
most basic conversation publicly about

3533
02:23:15,270 --> 02:23:13,439
it you and i are having it here and

3534
02:23:17,030 --> 02:23:15,280
that's good a few scattered

3535
02:23:19,270 --> 02:23:17,040
conversations here and there

3536
02:23:22,630 --> 02:23:19,280
but we all know how our society is

3537
02:23:25,510 --> 02:23:22,640
operated there's institutions of power

3538
02:23:28,630 --> 02:23:25,520
they manage the public i remember this

3539
02:23:31,190 --> 02:23:28,640
isn't happening i remember uh

3540
02:23:33,670 --> 02:23:31,200
i was hosting a panel you were on the

3541
02:23:35,830 --> 02:23:33,680
panel and and i know that you're going

3542
02:23:37,750 --> 02:23:35,840
to remember this moment we had 2 000

3543
02:23:40,070 --> 02:23:37,760
people in front of us richard

3544
02:23:41,990 --> 02:23:40,080
and i said

3545
02:23:45,030 --> 02:23:42,000
in my cocky way

3546
02:23:46,870 --> 02:23:45,040
i said uh i don't i'm speaking to the

3547
02:23:49,750 --> 02:23:46,880
audience and i said i don't need

3548
02:23:50,710 --> 02:23:49,760
disclosure i've seen what i've seen

3549
02:23:53,429 --> 02:23:50,720
and

3550
02:23:55,510 --> 02:23:53,439
i got booed you remember that reaction

3551
02:23:57,670 --> 02:23:55,520
from the audience yes

3552
02:23:59,750 --> 02:23:57,680
yeah and and i'm getting booed and and

3553
02:24:01,429 --> 02:23:59,760
that goes back to exactly what you're

3554
02:24:04,389 --> 02:24:01,439
saying right there

3555
02:24:06,230 --> 02:24:04,399
i my own experience you know i i've had

3556
02:24:08,150 --> 02:24:06,240
my own form of disclosure but you know

3557
02:24:10,469 --> 02:24:08,160
what it's true yeah you know the truth

3558
02:24:12,469 --> 02:24:10,479
that's right that's right but for

3559
02:24:13,270 --> 02:24:12,479
everybody else

3560
02:24:22,710 --> 02:24:13,280
they

3561
02:24:25,270 --> 02:24:22,720
there's people who've had their lives

3562
02:24:27,510 --> 02:24:25,280
and careers ruined ruined and so the

3563
02:24:29,030 --> 02:24:27,520
only the only way that they could stand

3564
02:24:31,110 --> 02:24:29,040
up for themselves

3565
02:24:32,950 --> 02:24:31,120
is for them to be able to turn to them

3566
02:24:34,630 --> 02:24:32,960
and say the president just announced

3567
02:24:37,030 --> 02:24:34,640
this see

3568
02:24:39,510 --> 02:24:37,040
right and and say something else yes

3569
02:24:42,230 --> 02:24:39,520
you're absolutely right tracy and i are

3570
02:24:43,590 --> 02:24:42,240
doing some uh research into abductions

3571
02:24:46,070 --> 02:24:43,600
we're going kind of deep she's really

3572
02:24:47,990 --> 02:24:46,080
going deep i'm going i'm going almost as

3573
02:24:50,309 --> 02:24:48,000
deep she's going deeper

3574
02:24:52,230 --> 02:24:50,319
but we talk about this all the time and

3575
02:24:54,230 --> 02:24:52,240
the one i don't want to throw out any

3576
02:24:55,429 --> 02:24:54,240
any stories here or give up any privacy

3577
02:24:57,750 --> 02:24:55,439
but one thing that we have definitely

3578
02:24:58,870 --> 02:24:57,760
been noticing is

3579
02:25:01,590 --> 02:24:58,880
there's

3580
02:25:03,590 --> 02:25:01,600
there are abduction cases that involve

3581
02:25:05,670 --> 02:25:03,600
serious trauma

3582
02:25:07,910 --> 02:25:05,680
to people

3583
02:25:11,270 --> 02:25:07,920
you know i mean we all know this but

3584
02:25:12,389 --> 02:25:11,280
when you encounter this with

3585
02:25:14,309 --> 02:25:12,399
you know

3586
02:25:16,550 --> 02:25:14,319
just new person then another new person

3587
02:25:19,990 --> 02:25:16,560
then another new person and you just see

3588
02:25:23,429 --> 02:25:20,000
how lives literally have been ruined

3589
02:25:24,469 --> 02:25:23,439
by this phenomenon it's it's happened

3590
02:25:27,030 --> 02:25:24,479
um

3591
02:25:29,590 --> 02:25:27,040
it's tragic it's it's awful like it's

3592
02:25:31,670 --> 02:25:29,600
heartbreaking is what it is

3593
02:25:33,910 --> 02:25:31,680
and these people

3594
02:25:36,309 --> 02:25:33,920
you know maybe nothing can fix

3595
02:25:38,389 --> 02:25:36,319
what they've gone through the terror

3596
02:25:40,309 --> 02:25:38,399
terror that they went through with their

3597
02:25:41,349 --> 02:25:40,319
abduction experiences

3598
02:25:42,950 --> 02:25:41,359
all right

3599
02:25:45,030 --> 02:25:42,960
probably not but you know what would be

3600
02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:45,040
nice

3601
02:25:48,710 --> 02:25:47,359
public recognition that this is real

3602
02:25:50,150 --> 02:25:48,720
that's a start

3603
02:25:53,510 --> 02:25:50,160
and that's probably not going to fix

3604
02:25:55,190 --> 02:25:53,520
everything for them but it's a start

3605
02:25:58,950 --> 02:25:55,200
and how many people are

3606
02:26:00,870 --> 02:25:58,960
have experienced real deep trauma

3607
02:26:02,870 --> 02:26:00,880
it often gets overlooked

3608
02:26:05,270 --> 02:26:02,880
i'm still i'll still never forgive neil

3609
02:26:08,630 --> 02:26:05,280
degrasse tyson for making jokes years

3610
02:26:10,630 --> 02:26:08,640
ago about alien abductees i was so mad

3611
02:26:12,550 --> 02:26:10,640
i was like you know buddy you should be

3612
02:26:14,630 --> 02:26:12,560
way better than that

3613
02:26:16,550 --> 02:26:14,640
but it's not just him it's lots of lots

3614
02:26:17,510 --> 02:26:16,560
of these dum-dum celebrities they think

3615
02:26:20,389 --> 02:26:17,520
they know what they're talking about and

3616
02:26:23,429 --> 02:26:20,399
they and they make a cheap cheap joke

3617
02:26:25,510 --> 02:26:23,439
about a subject that is serious

3618
02:26:27,830 --> 02:26:25,520
that has made people break down

3619
02:26:29,030 --> 02:26:27,840
and cry

3620
02:26:31,110 --> 02:26:29,040
for

3621
02:26:31,910 --> 02:26:31,120
days on end

3622
02:26:32,870 --> 02:26:31,920
so

3623
02:26:35,270 --> 02:26:32,880
you know

3624
02:26:36,710 --> 02:26:35,280
yeah disclosure would be nice for them

3625
02:26:38,950 --> 02:26:36,720
that would be a nice thing and it would

3626
02:26:42,230 --> 02:26:38,960
be nice for the body politic in general

3627
02:26:44,389 --> 02:26:42,240
because again we're supposed to have

3628
02:26:46,150 --> 02:26:44,399
this thing called transparency

3629
02:26:48,309 --> 02:26:46,160
i love how google jigsaw likes to use it

3630
02:26:49,590 --> 02:26:48,319
or a lot of these other bureaucratic

3631
02:26:51,190 --> 02:26:49,600
organizations like to talk about

3632
02:26:53,190 --> 02:26:51,200
transparency

3633
02:26:55,030 --> 02:26:53,200
yeah well how about some real

3634
02:26:56,389 --> 02:26:55,040
transparency

3635
02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:56,399
and um

3636
02:27:00,830 --> 02:26:59,520
you know we recognize look there are

3637
02:27:04,550 --> 02:27:00,840
there

3638
02:27:06,070 --> 02:27:04,560
are military secrets okay

3639
02:27:08,230 --> 02:27:06,080
there are

3640
02:27:11,750 --> 02:27:08,240
not every single thing

3641
02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:11,760
at all times has to be out

3642
02:27:15,110 --> 02:27:13,120
100

3643
02:27:17,429 --> 02:27:15,120
but this is a lie that's been going for

3644
02:27:20,150 --> 02:27:17,439
about 80 years it's a full human

3645
02:27:21,510 --> 02:27:20,160
lifetime and it has corrupted

3646
02:27:23,110 --> 02:27:21,520
our political institutions it's

3647
02:27:24,710 --> 02:27:23,120
corrupted our media

3648
02:27:26,389 --> 02:27:24,720
it's corrupted

3649
02:27:28,950 --> 02:27:26,399
all of our institutions of learning our

3650
02:27:32,230 --> 02:27:28,960
higher learning particularly

3651
02:27:34,150 --> 02:27:32,240
uh it's corrupted the people

3652
02:27:37,590 --> 02:27:34,160
like when you when you

3653
02:27:39,670 --> 02:27:37,600
when you live a fundamental lie

3654
02:27:40,870 --> 02:27:39,680
year after year after year like don't

3655
02:27:43,110 --> 02:27:40,880
think that

3656
02:27:44,389 --> 02:27:43,120
we're all immune from it everyone is

3657
02:27:47,270 --> 02:27:44,399
affected by it

3658
02:27:48,790 --> 02:27:47,280
we learn this cognitive dissonance

3659
02:27:50,070 --> 02:27:48,800
and um

3660
02:27:51,590 --> 02:27:50,080
i just think it does a bad thing to

3661
02:27:53,670 --> 02:27:51,600
societies i think it does bad thing to

3662
02:27:55,510 --> 02:27:53,680
people so

3663
02:27:57,190 --> 02:27:55,520
we have to figure out a way to get past

3664
02:27:59,510 --> 02:27:57,200
this secrecy

3665
02:28:01,030 --> 02:27:59,520
and the problem is it's of such a deeply

3666
02:28:02,469 --> 02:28:01,040
criminal nature

3667
02:28:04,630 --> 02:28:02,479
you know a couple of years ago i was at

3668
02:28:05,590 --> 02:28:04,640
the center of uh partly at the center of

3669
02:28:08,309 --> 02:28:05,600
the whole

3670
02:28:10,230 --> 02:28:08,319
release of the wilson eric davis notes

3671
02:28:11,190 --> 02:28:10,240
there thomas wilson and you know i'm

3672
02:28:15,590 --> 02:28:11,200
still

3673
02:28:16,710 --> 02:28:15,600
research community for running chicken

3674
02:28:18,309 --> 02:28:16,720
[\h__\h]

3675
02:28:21,270 --> 02:28:18,319
away from that because they're too

3676
02:28:23,670 --> 02:28:21,280
afraid to take a stand to say what

3677
02:28:25,429 --> 02:28:23,680
everyone behind the scenes knows is true

3678
02:28:26,469 --> 02:28:25,439
those documents are real

3679
02:28:29,349 --> 02:28:26,479
and if you

3680
02:28:30,630 --> 02:28:29,359
anyone who studies those documents

3681
02:28:33,270 --> 02:28:30,640
can

3682
02:28:35,590 --> 02:28:33,280
at least begin the process

3683
02:28:37,270 --> 02:28:35,600
of understanding the structure of

3684
02:28:40,469 --> 02:28:37,280
bureaucratic secrecy at least within the

3685
02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:40,479
dod is that those notes written by eric

3686
02:28:44,950 --> 02:28:42,160
davis

3687
02:28:47,750 --> 02:28:44,960
have some decent description along those

3688
02:28:51,349 --> 02:28:47,760
lines and it will give us an idea

3689
02:28:54,469 --> 02:28:51,359
and and if you look at that those notes

3690
02:28:57,429 --> 02:28:54,479
you get to see that this is a difficult

3691
02:29:00,070 --> 02:28:57,439
subject to break the secrecy on because

3692
02:29:01,510 --> 02:29:00,080
it's been so privatized

3693
02:29:03,590 --> 02:29:01,520
to to a large extent it's been

3694
02:29:05,110 --> 02:29:03,600
privatized and made probably

3695
02:29:07,590 --> 02:29:05,120
international

3696
02:29:09,590 --> 02:29:07,600
who's in control of this

3697
02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:09,600
like this is

3698
02:29:12,790 --> 02:29:11,200
this isn't just something like oh well

3699
02:29:14,469 --> 02:29:12,800
congress is going to just enact a law

3700
02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:14,479
and we'll get disclosure

3701
02:29:17,429 --> 02:29:16,000
is congress congress going to get into

3702
02:29:18,790 --> 02:29:17,439
lockheed martin

3703
02:29:20,710 --> 02:29:18,800
or boeing

3704
02:29:22,550 --> 02:29:20,720
or any of the other

3705
02:29:24,150 --> 02:29:22,560
special access programs that i guarantee

3706
02:29:26,230 --> 02:29:24,160
you are totally

3707
02:29:28,389 --> 02:29:26,240
immune from any congressional inquiry

3708
02:29:29,270 --> 02:29:28,399
anyway

3709
02:29:30,870 --> 02:29:29,280
so

3710
02:29:31,670 --> 02:29:30,880
we got our work cut out first and that's

3711
02:29:34,790 --> 02:29:31,680
just

3712
02:29:36,630 --> 02:29:34,800
the human criminal side of it

3713
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:36,640
i still would like to know who these

3714
02:29:39,990 --> 02:29:38,160
other guys are

3715
02:29:41,910 --> 02:29:40,000
you know the grays okay we know that

3716
02:29:43,429 --> 02:29:41,920
they're they're there

3717
02:29:45,270 --> 02:29:43,439
and uh they got the short grays and

3718
02:29:46,630 --> 02:29:45,280
there's the tall grays and

3719
02:29:51,429 --> 02:29:46,640
they

3720
02:29:54,550 --> 02:29:51,439
thing if there's insect insectal in type

3721
02:29:56,550 --> 02:29:54,560
creatures they exist

3722
02:29:58,309 --> 02:29:56,560
there's probably reptilian type

3723
02:29:59,990 --> 02:29:58,319
creatures i think they exist as well

3724
02:30:01,510 --> 02:30:00,000
like what are they

3725
02:30:03,110 --> 02:30:01,520
doing here

3726
02:30:05,110 --> 02:30:03,120
this is serious stuff and then you got

3727
02:30:06,870 --> 02:30:05,120
the ones that look human

3728
02:30:08,309 --> 02:30:06,880
and you know i realized someone who just

3729
02:30:10,469 --> 02:30:08,319
made traips on to your show for the

3730
02:30:12,950 --> 02:30:10,479
first time like they hear they say like

3731
02:30:14,710 --> 02:30:12,960
this is crazy well okay

3732
02:30:17,030 --> 02:30:14,720
fair enough but the ufo subject has got

3733
02:30:18,790 --> 02:30:17,040
a steep learning curve so before you

3734
02:30:22,230 --> 02:30:18,800
laugh it off before you think you know

3735
02:30:23,830 --> 02:30:22,240
everything do a little bit of research

3736
02:30:25,750 --> 02:30:23,840
take some time and study this because

3737
02:30:28,309 --> 02:30:25,760
this is serious

3738
02:30:30,070 --> 02:30:28,319
and yes ufos should be impossible but

3739
02:30:32,790 --> 02:30:30,080
guess what

3740
02:30:34,870 --> 02:30:32,800
despite their impossibility they're here

3741
02:30:38,389 --> 02:30:34,880
let's take our break and uh we're going

3742
02:30:41,429 --> 02:30:38,399
into overtime uh with richard dolan

3743
02:30:42,870 --> 02:30:41,439
and uh we're at the end of uh lockdown

3744
02:30:46,550 --> 02:30:42,880
uh two years

3745
02:30:48,469 --> 02:30:46,560
and uh richard uh just texted me and

3746
02:30:50,630 --> 02:30:48,479
said he wanted to do an extra two hours

3747
02:30:52,630 --> 02:30:50,640
tonight so yeah we'll keep this rolling

3748
02:30:54,230 --> 02:30:52,640
richard we'll keep this roll and we'll

3749
02:30:56,110 --> 02:30:54,240
be right back after this short break

3750
02:31:01,110 --> 02:30:56,120
stay with us

3751
02:31:01,120 --> 02:31:07,800
um

3752
02:31:07,810 --> 02:31:21,429
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02:36:27,990 --> 02:36:26,070
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3854
02:36:31,750 --> 02:36:28,000
host jimmy church tonight richard dolan

3855
02:36:35,429 --> 02:36:33,429
so richard uh

3856
02:36:37,670 --> 02:36:35,439
uh texted me during the break he said uh

3857
02:36:39,190 --> 02:36:37,680
jimmy can i swear like a sailor in the

3858
02:36:41,750 --> 02:36:39,200
in the last break

3859
02:36:44,070 --> 02:36:41,760
i said i said no man come on we got kids

3860
02:36:46,150 --> 02:36:44,080
listening to this show he's like damn it

3861
02:36:48,389 --> 02:36:46,160
i felt bad about that

3862
02:36:50,389 --> 02:36:48,399
you know what this segment if i feel the

3863
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need i'm going to say sugar sticks and

3864
02:36:54,950 --> 02:36:52,560
fudge pops yeah yeah yeah and that's how

3865
02:36:56,790 --> 02:36:54,960
it's coming out what was uh

3866
02:36:59,910 --> 02:36:56,800
i got a little carried away did you uh

3867
02:37:03,030 --> 02:36:59,920
do you see the tv series the good place

3868
02:37:05,110 --> 02:37:03,040
no okay it's with ted danson and uh

3869
02:37:07,110 --> 02:37:05,120
i think kirsten bell i think is her name

3870
02:37:09,990 --> 02:37:07,120
well anyway they're in heaven and you

3871
02:37:11,670 --> 02:37:10,000
can't swear in heaven but she so she

3872
02:37:16,150 --> 02:37:11,680
everything is fun oh i think i saw one

3873
02:37:22,550 --> 02:37:20,389
and uh it's really funny anyway um

3874
02:37:25,110 --> 02:37:22,560
you know talking about the big lie and

3875
02:37:27,110 --> 02:37:25,120
having to answer to questions uh once

3876
02:37:28,150 --> 02:37:27,120
disclosure goes down

3877
02:37:30,790 --> 02:37:28,160
um

3878
02:37:33,590 --> 02:37:30,800
in my opinion and i want your opinion on

3879
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this if if we're going to burn this

3880
02:37:39,429 --> 02:37:36,800
planet down right and revolt because of

3881
02:37:41,510 --> 02:37:39,439
some of the answers that are given

3882
02:37:43,910 --> 02:37:41,520
and and some of the disclosure that is

3883
02:37:46,630 --> 02:37:43,920
disclosed would be this

3884
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if there is an even

3885
02:37:51,590 --> 02:37:48,560
small chance

3886
02:37:53,510 --> 02:37:51,600
that governments of the world

3887
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including our own

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have had

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02:38:00,469 --> 02:37:59,680
an uh a limitless power source

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3892
02:38:06,230 --> 02:38:04,960
yeah that that right there and i'm

3893
02:38:08,150 --> 02:38:06,240
talking about

3894
02:38:10,950 --> 02:38:08,160
feeding the children and the and the

3895
02:38:13,270 --> 02:38:10,960
homeless and farming and heating and

3896
02:38:15,830 --> 02:38:13,280
schools and electricity

3897
02:38:17,910 --> 02:38:15,840
and the fact that i paid 579 a gallon

3898
02:38:20,710 --> 02:38:17,920
for gas yesterday right

3899
02:38:23,750 --> 02:38:22,550
oh my god

3900
02:38:25,670 --> 02:38:23,760
right can you

3901
02:38:28,630 --> 02:38:25,680
now i think that would be like the

3902
02:38:30,790 --> 02:38:28,640
biggest thing that they need to avoid

3903
02:38:32,389 --> 02:38:30,800
they can't answer to that

3904
02:38:34,550 --> 02:38:32,399
wouldn't that be the

3905
02:38:35,590 --> 02:38:34,560
the one thing that they would have to

3906
02:38:37,429 --> 02:38:35,600
face

3907
02:38:40,230 --> 02:38:37,439
well it's been one big thing that i've

3908
02:38:41,750 --> 02:38:40,240
wondered about for many years for sure

3909
02:38:45,110 --> 02:38:41,760
you know the energy

3910
02:38:45,990 --> 02:38:45,120
there's got to be some kind of energy

3911
02:38:48,389 --> 02:38:46,000
uh

3912
02:38:49,670 --> 02:38:48,399
answer within the ufo mystery that's

3913
02:38:52,309 --> 02:38:49,680
obvious

3914
02:38:54,950 --> 02:38:52,319
an object that can instantly accelerate

3915
02:38:57,990 --> 02:38:54,960
from from literally hovering to

3916
02:39:00,950 --> 02:38:58,000
multiple thousands of miles per hour

3917
02:39:03,030 --> 02:39:00,960
instantly that's that requires

3918
02:39:04,790 --> 02:39:03,040
an unbelievable amount of energy as we

3919
02:39:06,469 --> 02:39:04,800
understand it

3920
02:39:08,550 --> 02:39:06,479
and

3921
02:39:10,150 --> 02:39:08,560
you know probably a very elegant

3922
02:39:11,990 --> 02:39:10,160
solution

3923
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:12,000
and um i think you know there's a couple

3924
02:39:15,990 --> 02:39:13,600
of potential ones that people have been

3925
02:39:18,469 --> 02:39:16,000
talking about i i was actually just

3926
02:39:20,150 --> 02:39:18,479
really taken with a couple of years ago

3927
02:39:22,469 --> 02:39:20,160
i listened to jack sarfati on youtube

3928
02:39:25,590 --> 02:39:22,479
talk about the meta material in his own

3929
02:39:27,670 --> 02:39:25,600
theory about how he believed it

3930
02:39:29,190 --> 02:39:27,680
might have the ability to change the

3931
02:39:30,790 --> 02:39:29,200
speed of light

3932
02:39:33,030 --> 02:39:30,800
and actually is that the skin of the

3933
02:39:35,190 --> 02:39:33,040
craft itself is really the key to

3934
02:39:37,030 --> 02:39:35,200
propulsion of ufos and that it would be

3935
02:39:39,030 --> 02:39:37,040
able to soften the space-time boundary

3936
02:39:40,150 --> 02:39:39,040
around the craft and so on it was very

3937
02:39:42,550 --> 02:39:40,160
interesting i don't know if it's true

3938
02:39:43,790 --> 02:39:42,560
but i thought wow that's actually um

3939
02:39:47,030 --> 02:39:43,800
speaking as a

3940
02:39:48,790 --> 02:39:47,040
non-totally non-scientific non-physicist

3941
02:39:49,670 --> 02:39:48,800
i thought well i wonder

3942
02:39:52,870 --> 02:39:49,680
um

3943
02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:52,880
but there's definitely answers

3944
02:39:56,710 --> 02:39:54,000
and

3945
02:39:59,270 --> 02:39:56,720
i've always felt you know

3946
02:40:01,030 --> 02:39:59,280
10 minutes after an official disclosure

3947
02:40:01,990 --> 02:40:01,040
someone's going to think oh wait a

3948
02:40:03,830 --> 02:40:02,000
minute

3949
02:40:05,110 --> 02:40:03,840
so wait what are those flying saucers

3950
02:40:06,870 --> 02:40:05,120
using to get around and do we know

3951
02:40:08,469 --> 02:40:06,880
anything about that can we use that in

3952
02:40:10,469 --> 02:40:08,479
our own society like that's a logical

3953
02:40:12,710 --> 02:40:10,479
question to ask and that's

3954
02:40:15,190 --> 02:40:12,720
that changes our whole world

3955
02:40:16,710 --> 02:40:15,200
assuming that it's clean energy that

3956
02:40:18,469 --> 02:40:16,720
doesn't pollute

3957
02:40:20,630 --> 02:40:18,479
we're making that assumption

3958
02:40:22,950 --> 02:40:20,640
but uh in terms of

3959
02:40:24,950 --> 02:40:22,960
the amount of energy that seems to be

3960
02:40:26,150 --> 02:40:24,960
available

3961
02:40:27,990 --> 02:40:26,160
um

3962
02:40:29,750 --> 02:40:28,000
you know maybe it's a form of zero point

3963
02:40:31,269 --> 02:40:29,760
energy what is the source is really the

3964
02:40:32,950 --> 02:40:31,279
question we need to know you know

3965
02:40:34,710 --> 02:40:32,960
there's always the holy grail that we've

3966
02:40:35,910 --> 02:40:34,720
been working on which is clean nuclear

3967
02:40:40,469 --> 02:40:35,920
fusion

3968
02:40:42,150 --> 02:40:40,479
if we actually could master nuclear

3969
02:40:44,630 --> 02:40:42,160
fusion

3970
02:40:47,190 --> 02:40:44,640
in a in a controlled way that's not an

3971
02:40:49,030 --> 02:40:47,200
explosion like a hydrogen bomb

3972
02:40:51,110 --> 02:40:49,040
that that actually

3973
02:40:52,630 --> 02:40:51,120
that would solve a lot of our problems

3974
02:40:53,750 --> 02:40:52,640
in terms of energy frankly because that

3975
02:40:55,269 --> 02:40:53,760
would provide

3976
02:40:57,349 --> 02:40:55,279
a huge amount of energy and it would

3977
02:40:58,550 --> 02:40:57,359
just be incredibly cheap

3978
02:41:00,150 --> 02:40:58,560
and um

3979
02:41:01,670 --> 02:41:00,160
we would still use petroleum to create

3980
02:41:02,950 --> 02:41:01,680
plastics and things like that i mean you

3981
02:41:06,630 --> 02:41:02,960
have something to put in the pacific

3982
02:41:08,790 --> 02:41:06,640
ocean but we wouldn't use it for energy

3983
02:41:10,230 --> 02:41:08,800
uh nearly as much so

3984
02:41:11,670 --> 02:41:10,240
it would be a help

3985
02:41:14,230 --> 02:41:11,680
so there's different

3986
02:41:15,510 --> 02:41:14,240
there are answers out there but if your

3987
02:41:18,070 --> 02:41:15,520
point is a good one like if it would

3988
02:41:20,469 --> 02:41:18,080
discover that the governments were lying

3989
02:41:22,790 --> 02:41:20,479
and holding it back right for decades

3990
02:41:25,349 --> 02:41:22,800
and generations you know i got off point

3991
02:41:26,630 --> 02:41:25,359
there but yeah that would be a very

3992
02:41:28,790 --> 02:41:26,640
that could be something that would anger

3993
02:41:31,910 --> 02:41:28,800
people a lot yeah now would that would

3994
02:41:33,190 --> 02:41:31,920
that be uh a petro dollar

3995
02:41:35,590 --> 02:41:33,200
issue

3996
02:41:36,469 --> 02:41:35,600
right that yes absolutely could be would

3997
02:41:41,030 --> 02:41:36,479
be

3998
02:41:43,910 --> 02:41:41,040
you can't stop the

3999
02:41:45,590 --> 02:41:43,920
the mechanisms that are already in place

4000
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:45,600
right yeah people many people don't

4001
02:41:48,550 --> 02:41:46,960
understand what the petro dollar system

4002
02:41:50,070 --> 02:41:48,560
really means it's simply the united

4003
02:41:52,230 --> 02:41:50,080
states forcing other nations to buy

4004
02:41:54,870 --> 02:41:52,240
their oil using u.s dollars

4005
02:41:57,110 --> 02:41:54,880
and that was implemented 72. this went

4006
02:41:58,469 --> 02:41:57,120
off the gold standard right 71 and then

4007
02:42:00,389 --> 02:41:58,479
yeah kissinger makes a deal with the

4008
02:42:02,230 --> 02:42:00,399
saudis a couple of years later

4009
02:42:03,349 --> 02:42:02,240
and basically says you're going to sell

4010
02:42:04,550 --> 02:42:03,359
all your oil and dollars and you're

4011
02:42:06,630 --> 02:42:04,560
going to get all your

4012
02:42:08,630 --> 02:42:06,640
opec friends to do the same

4013
02:42:10,630 --> 02:42:08,640
and that's going to be that's the petro

4014
02:42:12,389 --> 02:42:10,640
dollar system and that's kept u.s

4015
02:42:14,230 --> 02:42:12,399
financial hegemony

4016
02:42:16,950 --> 02:42:14,240
uh ever since been

4017
02:42:19,030 --> 02:42:16,960
you know 50 about 50 years of that and

4018
02:42:20,309 --> 02:42:19,040
that the dollar is weakening i mean

4019
02:42:22,150 --> 02:42:20,319
these latest sanctions by the way are

4020
02:42:23,670 --> 02:42:22,160
going to just hasten the dedolorization

4021
02:42:25,750 --> 02:42:23,680
of the world i think

4022
02:42:27,670 --> 02:42:25,760
but um

4023
02:42:30,710 --> 02:42:27,680
you know it's been happening slowly

4024
02:42:32,309 --> 02:42:30,720
anyway but the us still has dollar

4025
02:42:33,910 --> 02:42:32,319
supremacy

4026
02:42:36,070 --> 02:42:33,920
at this point in time

4027
02:42:37,910 --> 02:42:36,080
and uh is

4028
02:42:40,469 --> 02:42:37,920
a lot of it a lot of it is based on the

4029
02:42:43,670 --> 02:42:40,479
petrodollar and if uh

4030
02:42:46,469 --> 02:42:43,680
if they are sitting on this technology

4031
02:42:49,269 --> 02:42:46,479
and the knowledge of what this could

4032
02:42:50,070 --> 02:42:49,279
mean which is a

4033
02:42:51,830 --> 02:42:50,080
uh

4034
02:42:53,349 --> 02:42:51,840
free energy so you're not going to be

4035
02:42:54,469 --> 02:42:53,359
able to charge for it or you would

4036
02:42:57,110 --> 02:42:54,479
charge

4037
02:42:59,670 --> 02:42:57,120
next to nothing for it because it's free

4038
02:43:00,950 --> 02:42:59,680
um that that would need to stay

4039
02:43:05,349 --> 02:43:00,960
suppressed

4040
02:43:07,830 --> 02:43:05,359
as long as corporations uh control

4041
02:43:10,309 --> 02:43:07,840
our energy sources on this planet and

4042
02:43:12,150 --> 02:43:10,319
until we absolutely right until we run

4043
02:43:14,469 --> 02:43:12,160
out of void and also and to control

4044
02:43:17,269 --> 02:43:14,479
other nations and had to create a global

4045
02:43:18,950 --> 02:43:17,279
system in which like if you if you and i

4046
02:43:20,870 --> 02:43:18,960
are sitting at the annual bilderberg

4047
02:43:23,349 --> 02:43:20,880
meetings or davos at the world economic

4048
02:43:25,590 --> 02:43:23,359
forum or whatever and we're we're like

4049
02:43:27,269 --> 02:43:25,600
i'm in the in the big club as george

4050
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:27,279
carlin put it

4051
02:43:31,030 --> 02:43:28,880
like we want to stay in the big club and

4052
02:43:33,030 --> 02:43:31,040
we we're not interested in losing our

4053
02:43:35,110 --> 02:43:33,040
status and our power and our feeling of

4054
02:43:37,190 --> 02:43:35,120
superiority about how to how we know how

4055
02:43:38,230 --> 02:43:37,200
to run the world hell this we live for

4056
02:43:39,590 --> 02:43:38,240
that

4057
02:43:41,670 --> 02:43:39,600
so um

4058
02:43:42,950 --> 02:43:41,680
and we can rationalize all sorts of ways

4059
02:43:44,790 --> 02:43:42,960
we'll say well you know moving off

4060
02:43:47,110 --> 02:43:44,800
petroleum would be very disruptive which

4061
02:43:48,150 --> 02:43:47,120
it would it would be disruptive like

4062
02:43:49,670 --> 02:43:48,160
there would be

4063
02:43:51,510 --> 02:43:49,680
infrastructure

4064
02:43:53,750 --> 02:43:51,520
there'd be a big shake-up and a lot of

4065
02:43:56,230 --> 02:43:53,760
jobs would be lost and

4066
02:43:57,990 --> 02:43:56,240
it would be it would even the best

4067
02:43:59,269 --> 02:43:58,000
version of that transition would not be

4068
02:44:02,550 --> 02:43:59,279
an easy one

4069
02:44:03,910 --> 02:44:02,560
probably but over time

4070
02:44:05,830 --> 02:44:03,920
i think we can assume it would be a

4071
02:44:08,070 --> 02:44:05,840
positive and the only reason i say that

4072
02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:08,080
is that there's a direct relationship in

4073
02:44:12,790 --> 02:44:09,760
economics between financial growth and

4074
02:44:14,309 --> 02:44:12,800
cost of energy so if energy is cheap

4075
02:44:16,550 --> 02:44:14,319
it's very simple you'll have economic

4076
02:44:18,790 --> 02:44:16,560
growth if energy is expensive it's very

4077
02:44:21,990 --> 02:44:18,800
simple you will not have economic growth

4078
02:44:23,429 --> 02:44:22,000
it's really simple so if if we could

4079
02:44:25,590 --> 02:44:23,439
and by the way so what's that going to

4080
02:44:27,670 --> 02:44:25,600
do for us now that uh our energy is

4081
02:44:30,230 --> 02:44:27,680
becoming so much more expensive now

4082
02:44:32,150 --> 02:44:30,240
but if we were to transition to a new

4083
02:44:33,910 --> 02:44:32,160
system in which energy is abundant and

4084
02:44:35,429 --> 02:44:33,920
cheap

4085
02:44:37,110 --> 02:44:35,439
in theory

4086
02:44:38,870 --> 02:44:37,120
in good theory i would say it would

4087
02:44:40,710 --> 02:44:38,880
probably lead to

4088
02:44:42,150 --> 02:44:40,720
significant economic growth and a lot of

4089
02:44:45,269 --> 02:44:42,160
happy people

4090
02:44:47,990 --> 02:44:45,279
the problem and this is

4091
02:44:49,429 --> 02:44:48,000
this is my rational side but the elites

4092
02:44:52,150 --> 02:44:49,439
would lose their power they would lose

4093
02:44:55,110 --> 02:44:52,160
their power over the little guy

4094
02:44:57,349 --> 02:44:55,120
this is how i look at it

4095
02:44:58,870 --> 02:44:57,359
yeah free energy is a great idea let's

4096
02:45:01,030 --> 02:44:58,880
let's bring it out

4097
02:45:03,429 --> 02:45:01,040
but that would mean i want everybody to

4098
02:45:07,030 --> 02:45:03,439
listen to what i am saying here

4099
02:45:09,269 --> 02:45:07,040
that means every airplane

4100
02:45:12,790 --> 02:45:09,279
is now obsolete that means every

4101
02:45:17,429 --> 02:45:12,800
freighter that has been built

4102
02:45:18,710 --> 02:45:17,439
is obsolete cars trucks trains

4103
02:45:21,590 --> 02:45:18,720
obsolete

4104
02:45:23,349 --> 02:45:21,600
the distribution system of all of those

4105
02:45:24,950 --> 02:45:23,359
energy sources

4106
02:45:28,070 --> 02:45:24,960
is obsolete

4107
02:45:30,790 --> 02:45:28,080
our entire infrastructure of everything

4108
02:45:32,550 --> 02:45:30,800
that has put us into place

4109
02:45:34,309 --> 02:45:32,560
has to be

4110
02:45:37,190 --> 02:45:34,319
replaced

4111
02:45:38,150 --> 02:45:37,200
and that is a drag we would grind to a

4112
02:45:40,550 --> 02:45:38,160
halt

4113
02:45:42,870 --> 02:45:40,560
it would be well it would presumably it

4114
02:45:45,110 --> 02:45:42,880
would it would be replaced when

4115
02:45:46,790 --> 02:45:45,120
a new system is ready to replace it

4116
02:45:48,469 --> 02:45:46,800
right so well that's what i'm saying

4117
02:45:50,389 --> 02:45:48,479
it's going to happen overnight it just

4118
02:45:52,070 --> 02:45:50,399
wouldn't it it couldn't happen overnight

4119
02:45:53,910 --> 02:45:52,080
it's an impossible and the old system

4120
02:45:55,990 --> 02:45:53,920
wouldn't die overnight as a result

4121
02:45:57,110 --> 02:45:56,000
either though that's the thing like you

4122
02:45:59,190 --> 02:45:57,120
know

4123
02:46:01,510 --> 02:45:59,200
a transportation system for global

4124
02:46:03,670 --> 02:46:01,520
infrastructure presumably

4125
02:46:05,510 --> 02:46:03,680
there's since there's going to be a need

4126
02:46:07,030 --> 02:46:05,520
a demand for it it will it will continue

4127
02:46:08,710 --> 02:46:07,040
as long as there's an economic payoff

4128
02:46:10,389 --> 02:46:08,720
for it so

4129
02:46:12,550 --> 02:46:10,399
you know but the the new system would

4130
02:46:15,590 --> 02:46:12,560
spring up at some point and replace the

4131
02:46:17,750 --> 02:46:15,600
old one with a new power structure

4132
02:46:20,550 --> 02:46:17,760
possibly probably

4133
02:46:22,710 --> 02:46:20,560
it would be a shakeup and um

4134
02:46:24,870 --> 02:46:22,720
you know if you're if you're managing

4135
02:46:26,630 --> 02:46:24,880
the system at the top

4136
02:46:28,469 --> 02:46:26,640
i think you wouldn't want that kind of

4137
02:46:30,710 --> 02:46:28,479
instability why would you want that you

4138
02:46:32,790 --> 02:46:30,720
got things great as it is

4139
02:46:35,110 --> 02:46:32,800
ride this horse into the sunset

4140
02:46:37,750 --> 02:46:35,120
and then when things are really really

4141
02:46:39,990 --> 02:46:37,760
bad you uh all right well you roll in

4142
02:46:40,790 --> 02:46:40,000
some of these new innovations perhaps

4143
02:46:41,990 --> 02:46:40,800
but

4144
02:46:44,070 --> 02:46:42,000
i think that's what they've been doing

4145
02:46:45,190 --> 02:46:44,080
all along you just squeeze the last drop

4146
02:46:46,950 --> 02:46:45,200
of oil

4147
02:46:49,269 --> 02:46:46,960
out of the system and for the united

4148
02:46:51,190 --> 02:46:49,279
states particularly because the u.s

4149
02:46:52,550 --> 02:46:51,200
dominates the world accepting china and

4150
02:46:53,590 --> 02:46:52,560
russia of course and a couple of other

4151
02:46:55,110 --> 02:46:53,600
nations

4152
02:46:56,950 --> 02:46:55,120
and and by the way they're getting more

4153
02:46:59,190 --> 02:46:56,960
powerful not less vis-a-vis the united

4154
02:47:01,429 --> 02:46:59,200
states but the united states has its

4155
02:47:03,190 --> 02:47:01,439
global hegemonic empire

4156
02:47:04,870 --> 02:47:03,200
and it's based on

4157
02:47:07,110 --> 02:47:04,880
in large part

4158
02:47:10,230 --> 02:47:07,120
dominance over sources of oil at least

4159
02:47:12,870 --> 02:47:10,240
it used to be russia's got a lot of oil

4160
02:47:14,790 --> 02:47:12,880
uh venezuela's got a lot of oil but but

4161
02:47:16,950 --> 02:47:14,800
america's tries to dominate those

4162
02:47:19,670 --> 02:47:16,960
locations as much as possible

4163
02:47:20,550 --> 02:47:19,680
with friendly governments or troops

4164
02:47:22,710 --> 02:47:20,560
and

4165
02:47:24,950 --> 02:47:22,720
if you control that you have a lot you

4166
02:47:26,469 --> 02:47:24,960
have a lot of control over the world

4167
02:47:28,630 --> 02:47:26,479
and um

4168
02:47:30,389 --> 02:47:28,640
if they lose that system well

4169
02:47:32,070 --> 02:47:30,399
things are up for grabs and you know in

4170
02:47:34,070 --> 02:47:32,080
terms of american

4171
02:47:35,910 --> 02:47:34,080
power i mean america's wealth america's

4172
02:47:37,030 --> 02:47:35,920
infrastructure we're not what we used to

4173
02:47:39,429 --> 02:47:37,040
be

4174
02:47:41,590 --> 02:47:39,439
you know hate to bring bad news but our

4175
02:47:43,429 --> 02:47:41,600
education system sucks we've

4176
02:47:45,990 --> 02:47:43,439
educated ourselves out of out of our

4177
02:47:47,110 --> 02:47:46,000
leadership in the world that's for sure

4178
02:47:48,469 --> 02:47:47,120
and

4179
02:47:50,070 --> 02:47:48,479
i don't think things look very good when

4180
02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:50,080
you look at how

4181
02:47:55,110 --> 02:47:52,720
the youth of this society are actually

4182
02:47:57,429 --> 02:47:55,120
being raised and trained

4183
02:47:59,670 --> 02:47:57,439
the answer is not very well

4184
02:48:02,309 --> 02:47:59,680
i don't i don't think we're primed

4185
02:48:03,190 --> 02:48:02,319
for asserting global leadership anytime

4186
02:48:06,469 --> 02:48:03,200
soon

4187
02:48:08,630 --> 02:48:06,479
uh once the infrastructure that we are

4188
02:48:11,269 --> 02:48:08,640
latching on to

4189
02:48:12,309 --> 02:48:11,279
you know starts to follow goes away yeah

4190
02:48:14,070 --> 02:48:12,319
and so

4191
02:48:16,870 --> 02:48:14,080
let's go back to your point that you

4192
02:48:19,910 --> 02:48:16,880
made uh earlier

4193
02:48:23,269 --> 02:48:19,920
that there are

4194
02:48:26,309 --> 02:48:23,279
beings among us that look like us

4195
02:48:30,790 --> 02:48:26,319
that uh are involved

4196
02:48:32,070 --> 02:48:30,800
um are they part of driving this car off

4197
02:48:34,309 --> 02:48:32,080
of the road

4198
02:48:35,429 --> 02:48:34,319
is there a way to drive the car back on

4199
02:48:37,910 --> 02:48:35,439
the road

4200
02:48:39,349 --> 02:48:37,920
honestly i think at least uh some of

4201
02:48:41,030 --> 02:48:39,359
them might be yeah

4202
02:48:43,030 --> 02:48:41,040
if if i were them

4203
02:48:44,870 --> 02:48:43,040
see i've i've got my own little pet

4204
02:48:46,790 --> 02:48:44,880
theory i wrote about it i call it the

4205
02:48:49,030 --> 02:48:46,800
fourth stage of humanity i think it's a

4206
02:48:50,550 --> 02:48:49,040
true theory i think i'm right

4207
02:48:52,710 --> 02:48:50,560
humanity you know we've we've been

4208
02:48:54,309 --> 02:48:52,720
around for a few hundred thousand years

4209
02:48:56,150 --> 02:48:54,319
most of that time almost all of that

4210
02:48:57,990 --> 02:48:56,160
time we basically had sharp sticks and

4211
02:48:59,750 --> 02:48:58,000
we stabbed animals with them we were

4212
02:49:01,990 --> 02:48:59,760
hunters and gatherers

4213
02:49:03,510 --> 02:49:02,000
and that's how we were for

4214
02:49:05,830 --> 02:49:03,520
three hundred thousand years

4215
02:49:07,670 --> 02:49:05,840
we only developed agriculture and uh

4216
02:49:09,990 --> 02:49:07,680
animal domestication

4217
02:49:11,830 --> 02:49:10,000
about ten thousand years ago roughly not

4218
02:49:13,910 --> 02:49:11,840
long we think of it as a long time ago

4219
02:49:15,990 --> 02:49:13,920
it isn't it's very short

4220
02:49:18,630 --> 02:49:16,000
and that was our first revolution to go

4221
02:49:20,630 --> 02:49:18,640
into stage two the agricultural

4222
02:49:22,309 --> 02:49:20,640
society you know the roman empire and

4223
02:49:24,710 --> 02:49:22,319
ancient egypt all of that

4224
02:49:26,469 --> 02:49:24,720
and um it was it was a great society

4225
02:49:28,150 --> 02:49:26,479
like we did very well with it and then

4226
02:49:30,950 --> 02:49:28,160
we moved to stage three which is science

4227
02:49:32,710 --> 02:49:30,960
and industry of another fundamental leap

4228
02:49:34,389 --> 02:49:32,720
into something totally different

4229
02:49:36,870 --> 02:49:34,399
started just a couple of hundred years

4230
02:49:39,269 --> 02:49:36,880
ago well we've we were all born into a

4231
02:49:40,710 --> 02:49:39,279
very mature stage three

4232
02:49:42,950 --> 02:49:40,720
you know i mean look just look at the

4233
02:49:45,110 --> 02:49:42,960
20th century now the 21st but now we're

4234
02:49:47,110 --> 02:49:45,120
moving into stage four

4235
02:49:48,230 --> 02:49:47,120
which is let's call it the transhumanist

4236
02:49:50,230 --> 02:49:48,240
stage it's

4237
02:49:52,950 --> 02:49:50,240
genetic total genetic mastery it's

4238
02:49:57,349 --> 02:49:52,960
strong artificial intelligence it's

4239
02:50:00,469 --> 02:49:57,359
5g 6g 24 7 surveillance of smart devices

4240
02:50:01,750 --> 02:50:00,479
everywhere you go no privacy nowhere to

4241
02:50:03,990 --> 02:50:01,760
hide

4242
02:50:05,670 --> 02:50:04,000
total propaganda control over you total

4243
02:50:07,990 --> 02:50:05,680
information control it's never been

4244
02:50:10,950 --> 02:50:08,000
anything like this before so it will it

4245
02:50:13,070 --> 02:50:10,960
will create a society of total

4246
02:50:15,910 --> 02:50:13,080
total control

4247
02:50:17,510 --> 02:50:15,920
totalitarian control that's happening

4248
02:50:19,429 --> 02:50:17,520
that's why the coveted revolution has

4249
02:50:20,469 --> 02:50:19,439
been so critical these last two years

4250
02:50:24,150 --> 02:50:20,479
it's been

4251
02:50:26,790 --> 02:50:24,160
of this from making it go pedal to the

4252
02:50:28,070 --> 02:50:26,800
metal so if i were one of these aliens i

4253
02:50:29,190 --> 02:50:28,080
have to assume they've already gone

4254
02:50:31,429 --> 02:50:29,200
through that

4255
02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:31,439
they already live like a beehive

4256
02:50:35,910 --> 02:50:34,000
or an ant hill they and they do all all

4257
02:50:37,510 --> 02:50:35,920
of the indications they don't really

4258
02:50:38,790 --> 02:50:37,520
seem to be individualistic when you

4259
02:50:41,190 --> 02:50:38,800
really

4260
02:50:44,469 --> 02:50:41,200
talk to abductees they have a kind of

4261
02:50:47,910 --> 02:50:44,479
hive mind that is what we're developing

4262
02:50:49,590 --> 02:50:47,920
and so if if if you're them

4263
02:50:51,510 --> 02:50:49,600
you might want to

4264
02:50:53,190 --> 02:50:51,520
move humanity along

4265
02:50:56,150 --> 02:50:53,200
into this revolution at least some of

4266
02:50:58,230 --> 02:50:56,160
them might very well i i hypothesize

4267
02:51:01,510 --> 02:50:58,240
that these alien groups probably all of

4268
02:51:04,230 --> 02:51:01,520
them are intensely conservative

4269
02:51:05,590 --> 02:51:04,240
and the reason i think that is

4270
02:51:07,910 --> 02:51:05,600
especially any group that has the

4271
02:51:10,550 --> 02:51:07,920
ability to monitor us for a long period

4272
02:51:12,309 --> 02:51:10,560
of time that implies a tremendous

4273
02:51:14,469 --> 02:51:12,319
stability

4274
02:51:16,710 --> 02:51:14,479
i mean we can't we can't keep uh

4275
02:51:19,429 --> 02:51:16,720
our political

4276
02:51:21,349 --> 02:51:19,439
you know i mean empires empires don't

4277
02:51:22,950 --> 02:51:21,359
last at least in human history they

4278
02:51:24,309 --> 02:51:22,960
don't last that long because we don't

4279
02:51:25,830 --> 02:51:24,319
have the foresight we don't have the

4280
02:51:27,990 --> 02:51:25,840
planning

4281
02:51:29,670 --> 02:51:28,000
um it just i mean there have been a

4282
02:51:32,389 --> 02:51:29,680
couple of long-lasting civilizations

4283
02:51:34,469 --> 02:51:32,399
ancient china ancient egypt but most

4284
02:51:36,389 --> 02:51:34,479
don't really have the kind of planning

4285
02:51:38,469 --> 02:51:36,399
and stability

4286
02:51:41,590 --> 02:51:38,479
but i do think

4287
02:51:44,309 --> 02:51:41,600
you could achieve it if you have your

4288
02:51:46,230 --> 02:51:44,319
entire society run by an incredibly

4289
02:51:47,590 --> 02:51:46,240
intelligent algorithm or series of

4290
02:51:49,830 --> 02:51:47,600
algorithms

4291
02:51:52,389 --> 02:51:49,840
very very high level ai that takes all

4292
02:51:53,510 --> 02:51:52,399
initiative out of its out of the people

4293
02:51:55,429 --> 02:51:53,520
so that all they're doing is just

4294
02:51:57,190 --> 02:51:55,439
following the algorithm i think that's

4295
02:51:59,030 --> 02:51:57,200
what they're that's what they have

4296
02:52:01,030 --> 02:51:59,040
that's my personal opinion

4297
02:52:02,469 --> 02:52:01,040
and and that would make them intensely

4298
02:52:04,550 --> 02:52:02,479
conservative especially if they've

4299
02:52:06,309 --> 02:52:04,560
achieved a certain plateau in their

4300
02:52:08,469 --> 02:52:06,319
science and tech which probably will

4301
02:52:10,790 --> 02:52:08,479
happen to us too you're not going to go

4302
02:52:12,230 --> 02:52:10,800
up on the curve indefinitely it's just

4303
02:52:13,110 --> 02:52:12,240
not possible

4304
02:52:15,830 --> 02:52:13,120
nothing

4305
02:52:17,429 --> 02:52:15,840
does that

4306
02:52:19,510 --> 02:52:17,439
it's not going to happen so we're going

4307
02:52:22,150 --> 02:52:19,520
to hit we're going to hit a couple of

4308
02:52:23,510 --> 02:52:22,160
fundamental scientific

4309
02:52:25,269 --> 02:52:23,520
principles

4310
02:52:27,269 --> 02:52:25,279
and we're going to plateau out probably

4311
02:52:28,950 --> 02:52:27,279
at a very very high level but we'll

4312
02:52:30,870 --> 02:52:28,960
plateau out

4313
02:52:32,469 --> 02:52:30,880
and we're going to be like them

4314
02:52:34,230 --> 02:52:32,479
and we'll we'll be on some level of

4315
02:52:36,710 --> 02:52:34,240
parity we're probably already starting

4316
02:52:37,590 --> 02:52:36,720
to approach it we're not there yet but i

4317
02:52:40,469 --> 02:52:37,600
think we're

4318
02:52:42,309 --> 02:52:40,479
going to approach it and so when we do

4319
02:52:43,349 --> 02:52:42,319
we're going to be like them that's my

4320
02:52:44,870 --> 02:52:43,359
fear

4321
02:52:46,710 --> 02:52:44,880
i can't shake it i mean i don't want to

4322
02:52:47,910 --> 02:52:46,720
be like them do you think i want to be

4323
02:52:51,030 --> 02:52:47,920
like us

4324
02:52:53,510 --> 02:52:51,040
does that imply that we

4325
02:52:55,590 --> 02:52:53,520
evolve past

4326
02:52:57,269 --> 02:52:55,600
the arts

4327
02:53:00,950 --> 02:52:57,279
right that

4328
02:53:01,990 --> 02:53:00,960
and and and and creativity comedy and

4329
02:53:04,309 --> 02:53:02,000
music

4330
02:53:05,750 --> 02:53:04,319
and everything else and and and that

4331
02:53:08,790 --> 02:53:05,760
part of us

4332
02:53:11,110 --> 02:53:08,800
is is a distant part of our evolution

4333
02:53:12,950 --> 02:53:11,120
well maybe not um

4334
02:53:14,870 --> 02:53:12,960
i mean a lot of that stuff is just a

4335
02:53:17,349 --> 02:53:14,880
product some of it i think will continue

4336
02:53:19,190 --> 02:53:17,359
to be the product of a very infantile

4337
02:53:20,950 --> 02:53:19,200
i mean literally infantile society you

4338
02:53:22,309 --> 02:53:20,960
know when there's not really a lot of

4339
02:53:25,190 --> 02:53:22,319
jobs for people to do so they're just

4340
02:53:27,830 --> 02:53:25,200
going to live in the fantasy metaverse

4341
02:53:29,670 --> 02:53:27,840
and they'll create all kinds of

4342
02:53:32,469 --> 02:53:29,680
trivial diversions for themselves so

4343
02:53:33,990 --> 02:53:32,479
there will be that kind of a culture

4344
02:53:35,910 --> 02:53:34,000
that kind of a creativity the kind of

4345
02:53:39,990 --> 02:53:35,920
doesn't matter because it doesn't have

4346
02:53:41,349 --> 02:53:40,000
an effect on anything so i think that's

4347
02:53:43,269 --> 02:53:41,359
that's a good i mean we're kind of

4348
02:53:44,469 --> 02:53:43,279
moving to that already

4349
02:53:46,950 --> 02:53:44,479
but i think we're going to move into

4350
02:53:48,870 --> 02:53:46,960
that faster in the years ahead so there

4351
02:53:50,469 --> 02:53:48,880
will there there will be outlets

4352
02:53:52,389 --> 02:53:50,479
presumably

4353
02:53:53,830 --> 02:53:52,399
for people but they're just i think it's

4354
02:53:54,950 --> 02:53:53,840
going to be different

4355
02:53:56,070 --> 02:53:54,960
well just

4356
02:53:57,750 --> 02:53:56,080
and it'll be one in which we're just

4357
02:53:59,910 --> 02:53:57,760
totally controlled by the system i mean

4358
02:54:01,670 --> 02:53:59,920
when you're plugged into that metaverse

4359
02:54:07,670 --> 02:54:01,680
does conservative

4360
02:54:11,990 --> 02:54:09,670
there i i don't think that there is any

4361
02:54:14,070 --> 02:54:12,000
single example that an abductee has ever

4362
02:54:16,150 --> 02:54:14,080
said in which a gray alien is laughed or

4363
02:54:17,990 --> 02:54:16,160
cracked a joke i mean if they have i i

4364
02:54:19,830 --> 02:54:18,000
can't think of one

4365
02:54:21,910 --> 02:54:19,840
you know there's none where you see them

4366
02:54:24,790 --> 02:54:21,920
even bitching on their lunch break

4367
02:54:27,030 --> 02:54:24,800
you know like oh god another friend

4368
02:54:29,269 --> 02:54:27,040
that's our humor that's not their humor

4369
02:54:30,790 --> 02:54:29,279
right that's us

4370
02:54:32,309 --> 02:54:30,800
you know having a cup of coffee they

4371
02:54:33,030 --> 02:54:32,319
don't do that

4372
02:54:35,830 --> 02:54:33,040
but

4373
02:54:37,750 --> 02:54:35,840
e.t doesn't have miles davis

4374
02:54:40,550 --> 02:54:37,760
i mean that's gonna suck i don't know if

4375
02:54:42,710 --> 02:54:40,560
i'm gonna jump into project serpo

4376
02:54:44,950 --> 02:54:42,720
if if i can have

4377
02:54:47,590 --> 02:54:44,960
no right presumably well if

4378
02:54:50,070 --> 02:54:47,600
i read serpo material ages ago and

4379
02:54:51,910 --> 02:54:50,080
that's a kind of a bleak world if that's

4380
02:54:53,590 --> 02:54:51,920
you know

4381
02:54:54,790 --> 02:54:53,600
they live on a desert planet in these

4382
02:54:56,790 --> 02:54:54,800
little huts

4383
02:55:00,070 --> 02:54:56,800
i'll pass

4384
02:55:01,910 --> 02:55:00,080
but no miles you know all of the aliens

4385
02:55:03,750 --> 02:55:01,920
are like that they're all like these

4386
02:55:05,510 --> 02:55:03,760
they're kind of annoying even the good

4387
02:55:07,510 --> 02:55:05,520
ones let's face it

4388
02:55:10,309 --> 02:55:07,520
like the tall blonde holier than thou

4389
02:55:12,630 --> 02:55:10,319
like but and then telling us how [\h__\h] of

4390
02:55:14,710 --> 02:55:12,640
how sugar sticky we are

4391
02:55:16,309 --> 02:55:14,720
like you humans

4392
02:55:17,750 --> 02:55:16,319
you're not good enough you have to

4393
02:55:19,429 --> 02:55:17,760
change we're

4394
02:55:21,269 --> 02:55:19,439
wagging the finger always with the

4395
02:55:24,389 --> 02:55:21,279
finger wag at us

4396
02:55:27,110 --> 02:55:24,399
i'm just like do you ever have fun

4397
02:55:31,110 --> 02:55:27,120
people like none of them ever seem to it

4398
02:55:32,790 --> 02:55:31,120
really makes me wonder like what

4399
02:55:35,590 --> 02:55:32,800
i mean

4400
02:55:38,309 --> 02:55:35,600
you know are all of these accounts true

4401
02:55:39,429 --> 02:55:38,319
i will i wonder this you know i

4402
02:55:42,389 --> 02:55:39,439
but

4403
02:55:44,150 --> 02:55:42,399
when i go through the accounts

4404
02:55:45,830 --> 02:55:44,160
whether it's i i recently a couple

4405
02:55:48,389 --> 02:55:45,840
months ago i did a whole deep dive back

4406
02:55:49,750 --> 02:55:48,399
into betty andreason's whole amazing

4407
02:55:51,830 --> 02:55:49,760
stuff that was written about by ray

4408
02:55:53,510 --> 02:55:51,840
fowler i believe that story i believe

4409
02:55:56,950 --> 02:55:53,520
betty's story

4410
02:55:59,110 --> 02:55:56,960
and she's running into these very like

4411
02:56:02,469 --> 02:55:59,120
oh so precious you know

4412
02:56:04,070 --> 02:56:02,479
nordic aliens like they're just so

4413
02:56:05,269 --> 02:56:04,080
i shouldn't make fun but like they're

4414
02:56:08,790 --> 02:56:05,279
just

4415
02:56:10,790 --> 02:56:08,800
humorless

4416
02:56:13,590 --> 02:56:10,800
and you know when jacobs dave jacobs

4417
02:56:15,429 --> 02:56:13,600
talks about the hubrids

4418
02:56:17,429 --> 02:56:15,439
that and you know the hybrid aliens that

4419
02:56:19,269 --> 02:56:17,439
are being created basically they're

4420
02:56:20,710 --> 02:56:19,279
sociopaths

4421
02:56:22,389 --> 02:56:20,720
and they don't do art they don't do

4422
02:56:24,950 --> 02:56:22,399
music they're like

4423
02:56:26,790 --> 02:56:24,960
they're they are trying now apparently

4424
02:56:28,790 --> 02:56:26,800
like the latest

4425
02:56:30,550 --> 02:56:28,800
iteration of hubrids apparently are

4426
02:56:32,070 --> 02:56:30,560
learning to play music

4427
02:56:33,429 --> 02:56:32,080
according to what his people have said

4428
02:56:36,070 --> 02:56:33,439
to him but

4429
02:56:38,150 --> 02:56:36,080
no we've human beings like we do really

4430
02:56:40,150 --> 02:56:38,160
amazing things like we've got this

4431
02:56:42,630 --> 02:56:40,160
we've got this great thing happening you

4432
02:56:45,670 --> 02:56:42,640
know our brains the light bulb went on

4433
02:56:47,590 --> 02:56:45,680
about 40 45 000 years ago that's when i

4434
02:56:49,429 --> 02:56:47,600
really think it went on with us you

4435
02:56:51,269 --> 02:56:49,439
start getting cave art that's amazing

4436
02:56:53,510 --> 02:56:51,279
and music

4437
02:56:54,790 --> 02:56:53,520
probably ritual

4438
02:56:55,990 --> 02:56:54,800
i personally think that our

4439
02:56:58,150 --> 02:56:56,000
consciousness turned on when we

4440
02:56:59,830 --> 02:56:58,160
discovered god or you could say the idea

4441
02:57:01,590 --> 02:56:59,840
of god if you want to put it that way i

4442
02:57:02,710 --> 02:57:01,600
think that's actually what switched us

4443
02:57:04,309 --> 02:57:02,720
on

4444
02:57:05,349 --> 02:57:04,319
and we've been kind of amazing ever

4445
02:57:08,070 --> 02:57:05,359
since

4446
02:57:09,590 --> 02:57:08,080
creativity you mean when e.t first made

4447
02:57:12,070 --> 02:57:09,600
contact with us

4448
02:57:14,070 --> 02:57:12,080
maybe that was it yeah i mean i actually

4449
02:57:16,469 --> 02:57:14,080
hypothesized this in my book uh over a

4450
02:57:17,349 --> 02:57:16,479
year ago i mean i still don't really

4451
02:57:20,710 --> 02:57:17,359
know

4452
02:57:23,510 --> 02:57:20,720
did they tweak our microcephaly gene

4453
02:57:25,590 --> 02:57:23,520
that can that manages the our brain

4454
02:57:26,870 --> 02:57:25,600
growth and development i mean something

4455
02:57:27,990 --> 02:57:26,880
tweaked it

4456
02:57:29,670 --> 02:57:28,000
and it does appear according to

4457
02:57:31,830 --> 02:57:29,680
geneticists to come from an outside

4458
02:57:34,070 --> 02:57:31,840
source and it does appear to be within

4459
02:57:35,750 --> 02:57:34,080
the range potentially 40 45 000 years

4460
02:57:37,750 --> 02:57:35,760
ago could be a little more could be a

4461
02:57:40,710 --> 02:57:37,760
little less it would coincide with the

4462
02:57:42,309 --> 02:57:40,720
so-called creative explosion of humanity

4463
02:57:43,750 --> 02:57:42,319
and if it came from an outside source it

4464
02:57:44,710 --> 02:57:43,760
doesn't it didn't come from neanderthals

4465
02:57:47,910 --> 02:57:44,720
and i don't think it came from the

4466
02:57:50,790 --> 02:57:47,920
denisovans so who's the daddy

4467
02:57:52,550 --> 02:57:50,800
maybe it is the et's

4468
02:57:54,309 --> 02:57:52,560
you're the best maybe they gave us they

4469
02:57:56,469 --> 02:57:54,319
gave us god they gave us creativity i

4470
02:57:58,230 --> 02:57:56,479
don't know or maybe we discovered god

4471
02:58:01,590 --> 02:57:58,240
you don't know what it is you know the

4472
02:58:03,030 --> 02:58:01,600
last question of uh the night is is

4473
02:58:06,150 --> 02:58:03,040
going to be when is part three coming

4474
02:58:08,790 --> 02:58:06,160
out and and i just have to ask that did

4475
02:58:12,389 --> 02:58:08,800
you write today

4476
02:58:13,190 --> 02:58:12,399
uh i researched today i i pulled uh

4477
02:58:14,950 --> 02:58:13,200
i'm

4478
02:58:16,870 --> 02:58:14,960
what i've needed to do for this it may

4479
02:58:19,670 --> 02:58:16,880
be parts three and four actually it's

4480
02:58:20,870 --> 02:58:19,680
just killing me but it probably will be

4481
02:58:23,349 --> 02:58:20,880
um

4482
02:58:26,469 --> 02:58:23,359
i let my i i've i'm the creator of a

4483
02:58:28,230 --> 02:58:26,479
very very massive ufo chronology it

4484
02:58:29,670 --> 02:58:28,240
might be the biggest in the world it's

4485
02:58:32,550 --> 02:58:29,680
quite possible in other words what i've

4486
02:58:35,190 --> 02:58:32,560
done is i've just compiled dates data

4487
02:58:37,349 --> 02:58:35,200
data data data data from every source

4488
02:58:39,510 --> 02:58:37,359
that i can imagine and i and i have it

4489
02:58:41,830 --> 02:58:39,520
in a series of massive chronological

4490
02:58:43,269 --> 02:58:41,840
files all with citations and everything

4491
02:58:44,309 --> 02:58:43,279
so i can find it

4492
02:58:47,110 --> 02:58:44,319
and

4493
02:58:48,870 --> 02:58:47,120
i i let my chronology slide

4494
02:58:51,110 --> 02:58:48,880
for a couple of years earlier this

4495
02:58:53,830 --> 02:58:51,120
century and i am going back and i'm

4496
02:58:55,190 --> 02:58:53,840
filling in some years

4497
02:58:58,870 --> 02:58:55,200
so um

4498
02:59:01,830 --> 02:58:58,880
i got to finish up 0.70809 and 2010 and

4499
02:59:04,790 --> 02:59:01,840
part of 11. and when i'm done with those

4500
02:59:07,110 --> 02:59:04,800
i will go back and i'm going to write

4501
02:59:09,670 --> 02:59:07,120
this book which i want to be awesome uh

4502
02:59:12,630 --> 02:59:09,680
it'll it very well may cover i may have

4503
02:59:15,429 --> 02:59:12,640
to do the last 30 years in two volumes

4504
02:59:17,670 --> 02:59:15,439
it's too much so i may do i'm going to

4505
02:59:19,030 --> 02:59:17,680
start with 92 and i made i may take it

4506
02:59:21,750 --> 02:59:19,040
to like uh

4507
02:59:23,269 --> 02:59:21,760
2008 2009 take it to the end of bush

4508
02:59:25,830 --> 02:59:23,279
beginning of obama and i think that'll

4509
02:59:26,630 --> 02:59:25,840
work out and then i i may do volume 4

4510
02:59:29,030 --> 02:59:26,640
from

4511
02:59:29,750 --> 02:59:29,040
09 onward um

4512
02:59:34,710 --> 02:59:29,760
what

4513
02:59:37,750 --> 02:59:34,720
the week do you do your fireside chat

4514
02:59:40,309 --> 02:59:37,760
sundays so that's on sunday and then do

4515
02:59:43,349 --> 02:59:40,319
you release anything during the week

4516
02:59:44,870 --> 02:59:43,359
yeah usually um

4517
02:59:46,710 --> 02:59:44,880
i've been i've slowed down a little bit

4518
02:59:48,070 --> 02:59:46,720
sorry members of the website but i tried

4519
02:59:50,389 --> 02:59:48,080
to do at least one or two other things

4520
02:59:51,990 --> 02:59:50,399
during the week uh lately i've been

4521
02:59:54,230 --> 02:59:52,000
doing some really nice podcasts with

4522
02:59:57,429 --> 02:59:54,240
tracy those are just awesome we both

4523
02:59:58,309 --> 02:59:57,439
love them um

4524
03:00:01,429 --> 02:59:58,319
and

4525
03:00:04,230 --> 03:00:01,439
i will typically do either either solo

4526
03:00:06,230 --> 03:00:04,240
podcast or write an article or two

4527
03:00:07,990 --> 03:00:06,240
something like that during the week so i

4528
03:00:10,150 --> 03:00:08,000
always do my weekly fireside chat

4529
03:00:10,950 --> 03:00:10,160
podcast those are usually an hour or

4530
03:00:13,030 --> 03:00:10,960
more

4531
03:00:15,830 --> 03:00:13,040
those are typically video

4532
03:00:18,389 --> 03:00:15,840
uh i'll often do at least one

4533
03:00:20,630 --> 03:00:18,399
and most of my stuff i do is solo now

4534
03:00:22,710 --> 03:00:20,640
but i'll also i just do interviews with

4535
03:00:24,950 --> 03:00:22,720
people like yourself

4536
03:00:27,269 --> 03:00:24,960
um so that keeps me busy

4537
03:00:29,110 --> 03:00:27,279
and um and i do my writing and and

4538
03:00:30,630 --> 03:00:29,120
actually i'm really i'm i'm excited

4539
03:00:32,070 --> 03:00:30,640
about sharing my research with the folks

4540
03:00:33,190 --> 03:00:32,080
at my website which i've been trying to

4541
03:00:35,830 --> 03:00:33,200
do lately

4542
03:00:38,389 --> 03:00:35,840
thank you so much back into it uh give

4543
03:00:40,469 --> 03:00:38,399
my best to tracy and and be safe out

4544
03:00:42,070 --> 03:00:40,479
there and uh we'll talk first thing

4545
03:00:43,510 --> 03:00:42,080
tomorrow thank you so much and enjoy the

4546
03:00:45,750 --> 03:00:43,520
rest of your night

4547
03:00:47,110 --> 03:00:45,760
jimmy it was my pleasure and uh i want

4548
03:00:48,389 --> 03:00:47,120
to give a big greeting to all the fader

4549
03:00:51,190 --> 03:00:48,399
knots out there and there's some

4550
03:00:52,790 --> 03:00:51,200
dolanites in the fade or not chat room

4551
03:00:55,269 --> 03:00:52,800
that's what we call ourselves they're

4552
03:00:57,830 --> 03:00:55,279
there too a lot of crossover that's what

4553
03:00:59,830 --> 03:00:57,840
i'm talking about dolanites

4554
03:01:02,550 --> 03:00:59,840
richard dolan thank you so much my

4555
03:01:05,030 --> 03:01:02,560
friend and and be safe out there

4556
03:01:07,429 --> 03:01:05,040
and uh another great conversation with

4557
03:01:09,670 --> 03:01:07,439
richard and that was a full

4558
03:01:12,389 --> 03:01:09,680
full two and a half hour conversation

4559
03:01:14,469 --> 03:01:12,399
thank you so much richard and i will let

4560
03:01:15,750 --> 03:01:14,479
everybody go you just gave me the thumbs

4561
03:01:18,710 --> 03:01:15,760
up thank you

4562
03:01:20,469 --> 03:01:18,720
tomorrow night is fader night open lines

4563
03:01:21,910 --> 03:01:20,479
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4564
03:01:23,910 --> 03:01:21,920
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03:01:26,230 --> 03:01:23,920
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4566
03:01:27,030 --> 03:01:26,240
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4567
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4568
03:01:31,110 --> 03:01:29,279
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4569
03:01:33,190 --> 03:01:31,120
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4570
03:01:34,710 --> 03:01:33,200
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4571
03:01:37,110 --> 03:01:34,720
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4572
03:01:38,790 --> 03:01:37,120
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4573
03:01:41,110 --> 03:01:38,800
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4574
03:01:42,710 --> 03:01:41,120
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4575
03:01:44,389 --> 03:01:42,720
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4576
03:01:45,750 --> 03:01:44,399
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4577
03:01:47,269 --> 03:01:45,760
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4578
03:01:50,070 --> 03:01:47,279
game changer network i'm yours streep

4579
03:01:52,630 --> 03:01:50,080
church tomorrow night is thursday fader

4580
03:01:55,030 --> 03:01:52,640
night open lines all night long until

4581
03:02:01,480 --> 03:01:55,040
then i want you to be safe

4582
03:02:09,090 --> 03:02:07,030
[Music]

4583
03:02:19,590 --> 03:02:09,100
so

4584
03:02:19,600 --> 03:02:23,760
wow